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Rage or Body?

Hi all

I am considering getting intermediate Airflo Rage or Rio Scandi Body as my sinking line option for Echo Glass Spey 12'9" #7.

Has any one compared those two? May be in floating version? I would like to cast 12ft to 15ft sinking tapered tips I already own (they are around 80 to 150 grains). Which one is easier to cast heavy sinking tips?

Any inputs appreciated.

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Forgot to say the heads I am considering are around 400 grains. Cheers

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I just got a 420gr Rage for my 12 1/2' 6wt Redington duelly. Real nice...love it.
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I'm not familiar with that rod, but 400 grains for heavy sink tips on a 7 weight sounds light. I think generally for heavier tips like that, you would want more like a 500 grain skagit head.
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I'm not familiar with that rod, but 400 grains for heavy sink tips on a 7 weight sounds light. I think generally for heavier tips like that, you would want more like a 500 grain skagit head.
Thanks for commenting. Forgot to say that I would mostly be casting touch and go cast、so 400 grain plus 80 to 100 grain tip would put it in the rod's Scandi grain weight (may be a bit much with 150 grain tip、I agree) from what I read.

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I canít speak much abt rage compact as Iíve only test cast a few times. I use the scandi body quite a bit and love it. Typically with a poly/versi leader in the 50-75 grain range.
I would really recommend reaching out to the folks at ashland fly shop in oregon. They use that scandi body for many applications and helped me get dialed in. Their website live chat feature is easy to use and fast reply when the shop is open.
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Hi all

I am considering getting intermediate Airflo Rage or Rio Scandi Body as my sinking line option for Echo Glass Spey 12'9" #7.

Has any one compared those two? May be in floating version? I would like to cast 12ft to 15ft sinking tapered tips I already own (they are around 80 to 150 grains). Which one is easier to cast heavy sinking tips?

Any inputs appreciated.

Thanks

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Hi leakingwader,
I use both lines a lot on different rods. The Rage in general is a complete line, tip included. It’s a very good line. But a Rage around 400 grain as mentioned for your rod would be no pleasure to cast additional tips/ sink tips up to 15’ and 150 grain with, especially with your glass rod...
The Rage is built for use with Polyleaders/Versileaders, at least in the lower weight classes. The Scandi light Versileader in 10‘ is my choice on a Rage up to 480 grain for best performance and turnover.
Of course Polyleaders in different densities are an option, but this is not what you wanted.
The Rio body as a body, in difference to the Rage, is not complete without a tip of 10‘ or 15‘ and therefore shorter compared to the Rage as a complete line. This is for you and what you want to cast your tips with.
A Polyleader can be a benefit also additional on this line (Rio body plus tip plus Polyleader/Versileader), depending of tip length, rod length and choice for a better anchor and/or deeper load.

On many rods I use Rio SVT or SSVT and a Rage, both for very different approaches.
Both lines (Rage to Rio body plus tips) are very different in mass distribution. But the Rio versions - body plus interchangeable tips - are my sinktip lines. They are very well adaptable to specific fishing situations.
Hope this is some help. Good luck!
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Hi all

I am considering getting intermediate Airflo Rage or Rio Scandi Body as my sinking line option for Echo Glass Spey 12'9" #7.

Has any one compared those two? May be in floating version? I would like to cast 12ft to 15ft sinking tapered tips I already own (they are around 80 to 150 grains). Which one is easier to cast heavy sinking tips?

Any inputs appreciated.

Thanks

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Hey man, I’ve used them both. And though I am a very big fan of Airflo lines across the board, I much preferred the Scandi Body. It could just be me, but I’m not sure if I like the rage or not?? Not sure why, just not my favorite line. I much preferred the Scandi Compact from Airflo. Once again, this is subjective, but I just like certain lines better and I thought the Scandi Body was excellent!
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Hi leakingwader,
I use both lines a lot on different rods. The Rage in general is a complete line, tip included. Itís a very good line. But a Rage around 400 grain as mentioned for your rod would be no pleasure to cast additional tips/ sink tips up to 15í and 150 grain with, especially with your glass rod...
The Rage is built for use with Polyleaders/Versileaders, at least in the lower weight classes. The Scandi light Versileader in 10Ď is my choice on a Rage up to 480 grain for best performance and turnover.
Of course Polyleaders in different densities are an option, but this is not what you wanted.
The Rio body as a body, in difference to the Rage, is not complete without a tip of 10Ď or 15Ď and therefore shorter compared to the Rage as a complete line. This is for you and what you want to cast your tips with.
A Polyleader can be a benefit also additional on this line (Rio body plus tip plus Polyleader/Versileader), depending of tip length, rod length and choice for a better anchor and/or deeper load.

On many rods I use Rio SVT or SSVT and a Rage, both for very different approaches.
Both lines (Rage to Rio body plus tips) are very different in mass distribution. But the Rio versions - body plus interchangeable tips - are my sinktip lines. They are very well adaptable to specific fishing situations.
Hope this is some help. Good luck!
Thanks very much for very detailed reply! Sounds like Scandi Body is the line for me.
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Hey man, Iíve used them both. And though I am a very big fan of Airflo lines across the board, I much preferred the Scandi Body. It could just be me, but Iím not sure if I like the rage or not?? Not sure why, just not my favorite line. I much preferred the Scandi Compact from Airflo. Once again, this is subjective, but I just like certain lines better and I thought the Scandi Body was excellent!
Hi. I am the same. Big Airflo fan、but Scandi Body seems like the line for my intended use. Cheers

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I've fished both the Scandi Body (with 10' tips) and the Rage with polyleaders. Both are fine heads, but I like the flexibility of the Scandi with tips better. You can go from a 33' "Skandit" with Sink 6 and a lightly weighted fly to a delicate greaseline with the floating tip and 10' floating poly. It's my go to line for the early fall and spring.

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