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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 04-07-2019, 06:05 PM Thread Starter
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Question Gel Spun Questions

Gel spun is looking like an answer to a problem. I have never used it but seem to remember it from days long past that it was not greatly liked but I could be wrong. Tell me what you know or I need to know.

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Id stick with Dacron. Sure you can get more backing on the reel with gel spun but do you have an advantage knowing the fish can get that much further away from you? Gel spun is more money without the benefit. We've all fished Dacron long enough to know it works just fine. Honestly, 30# Dacron works just fine on all of my reels and how I have them rigged up. Save your Loonies.
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I switched some saltwater reels over to it several years ago. Then got the most severe line cut I ever imagined on one the first good stripers I hooked- I'd been so focused on getting more backing I hadn't thought about the other factors involved. The hardness and fine diameter make it a fine cutting tool

I use 30 lb Dacron on my steelhead reels, 20lb on trout. The larger diameter and softer handling are much preferable to me.
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Can't say I'm a fan of gel spun, but sometimes it just make sense to use it for capacity considerations. Generally, I'll use gel spun as the base backing, and then attach 30 lb. Dacron over it for maybe the last 30 yds or so. You have the gel for safety if you really have a running fish, but honestly, how often are you going to get into it, and often the Dacron will be enough.

Another alternative, and probably better, is the Hatch backing. It's great stuff, but expensive.
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Hi Leo,

I've only used it on very small reels so I could fit some back line on them. When I say small I mean reels for flea rods in the 2 7/8" diameter range. All the spey reels and larger single hand reels I own have either old 36 pound micron or the new readily available 30 pound RIO back line. My advise on backing is to have at least 100 years and keep fish calm by not pressuring them into a run
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I just put some Hatch Backing on......AMAzing! Tons of capacity and 68lb breaking strength! I’m sold man.............yes, a little pricey up front, but the stuff is a one & done. I bought a sweet Danielsson from ‘Salmon Cane’ and I got 427yds of backing with room for at least another 100 with this stuff! Crazy

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Gelspun requires special knots

I use gelspun on my baitcasters 100% and as backing on my 4" diameter saltwater (e.g. bonefish) reels where I want 150-175 yards behind the line in case I hook a freight train or foul hook a shark.

The best knots to use include a doubled line Bimini twist (70 turns = 100%) breaking strength. This in turn gives you two loops to connect to the tail end of your running line or fly line which in turn disperses the cutting force somewhat.

I use a 40-turn Bimini to double the line before I tie it onto the arbor. The actual knot I use is a six-turn uniknot which I cinch up very tight. This is also a 100% join. For saltwater, I first wrap the arbor a couple of times with Teflon plumber's tape (you can even use vinyl electrician's tape but it leaves adhesive on your reel) as I'm concerned that the entire line mass might slip on the spool when under load.

I don't fish a heavy drag on my Spey setups, so I haven't used the Teflon on the BC reels.

In general, I prefer 30lb Dacron for salmon and steelhead to braid.

The method doesn't matter to the fish.
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gelspun is fiber of the braid line . The powerpro and tuff line are on sale sometimes. I bought 300 yard 80lb powerpro for $20. That is my backing
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Gel spun < 8 strand braids
8 strand braid is what I use on all my reels. The only downside is that it is more expensive than dacron, otherwise it knots great like dacron, it won't cut you like braid, and unlike dacron it won't rot out if put away wet. 65lbs Power Pro SuperSlick8 is the stuff I use. I splice using either a nested nail knot or a double uni-knot. I've used the stuff on everything from steelhead up to pacific albacore tuna.
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On those little trout reels, an often overlooked way of getting more backing on the reel is to cut maybe 20' off the back of the fly line. When have you ever presented a fly 90 ft out, on a 3wt rod?
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