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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 03-13-2019, 10:30 AM Thread Starter
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Pros and cons

What is the preference in reel and why? Do you use a click reel or reel with a drag.

I like them both, but I personally use a reel with drag. I guess I just like being able to put the boots to them for a quick release. I don’t hold a loop I just have the drag set to come off the reel like a clicker, then if God forbid I get a fish on I give it a few clicks to tighten up the drag.

What are you guys using?
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With very few exceptions I use nothing but gear and pawl reels for all my freshwater fishing. I've caught Atlantics to 30# on a Bo Mohlin G&P reel. In fact, it was on the famous "Esquire Jim" that Sinktip recently sold. That's one reel I wish I had never sold. I'll admit that landing a big fish sooner is easier with a drag, but with experience you can minimize that difference to negligible.
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Largely click and pawls. Love the sound and tradition and it evens things up a bit for the fish...kind of like hand to hand combat

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Drag reels, that way they all do double duty for saltwater.

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Hardy - G & P - saltwater or freshwater.

The last drag reel I purchased turned out to be yet another disappointment.
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G&P for me
Mechanical parts fail, no argument there. More parts, more chances of failing, doesn't matter who the manufacturer is, it's a given.
Simple designs prove to be long lasting and fewer occurrences.
There is no drag system that has ever been designed that can match the reaction time that you have to increase or decrease the pressure of your finger against the spool, back-plate or rim of your reel.
I can't remember if I have ever lost a fish due to the fact I was using a G&P reel.

Baring the above statements, I like simple, traditional designs and methods. Tradition plays a big part of my river experience ... I like G&P reels


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I use both and can’t argue with any of the logic posted already. I’m not opposed to disc drag reels and have and occasionally fish four of them. Even on my disc drag models, I only set the drag to minimize overrun and play the fish using finger pressure the same as on G&P models.
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I have both, and rarely use the drag reels. Keep them for salt for the most part. The clickers require more off me to land a good fish, and I like that- one more layer I try not screw up.
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I appreciate disc drag reels for saltwater use. Species like permit and tarpon and others are extremely strong and make fast, long runs. In freshwater, I might use a disc drag reel for Chinook salmon. Chinook can be large, and playing them with fly fishing tackle can be a lot like work. I fish for fun, not so much for work.

I use nothing but spring and pawl reels for steelhead fishing. First and foremost, I'll again register my complaint about the term - now even used by weak-minded manufacturers - "click-and-pawl" reels. I have many such reels, mostly Hardy, and I have examined every part on them. There is a spring, and there is a pawl. The reel makes a "clicking" sound when the spool is turned. However, nowhere on these reels is a part that is called a "click." It just isn't there friends.

Now then, I can find no disadvantage to using spring and pawl reels for steelhead and trout fishing. The spring tension serves mainly to prevent spool over-run and provide minimal drag. I apply infinitely adjustable drag by pushing one or more fingers against the remaining line on the reel spool. I can apply anything from light pressure, or bring the spool rotation to a dead stop.

I stick to this time-tested tackle for a couple reasons. It's what I have and enjoy. The other is that I have a number of fishing friends who own and use high quality, very expensive, name brand disc drag reels that can stop a bus. They can, that is, when there are not being returned to the factory for some repair or other. I never have to return one of my spring and pawl reels to the factory. With an occasional cleaning and application of oil and grease, they function reliably for a hundred years and more. What's not to like about a product so good in this day when most manufactured goods are intended to be used and then disposed of?
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No preference

I had my first flyrod and reel given to me around age 10. It was a drag reel and it served me well. Somewhere in the 1970s I "upgraded" to a Pflueger 1498 simply for the extra capacity as I was chasing kings and cohos at the time in South East Ak. Im fairly certain the previous reel was a smaller version of the same but I don't recall. Ive always liked a drag system but,having a back up with a palmable outside rim seemed wise.
Since then I have made several upgrades, all with a drag system.

The only con that I've experienced with a drag is in extremely cold weather, if the reel becomes wet the drag may freeze. The only way to counter that was to cast and dip the entire thing in the river. I had the same thing happen with an Abel Big game so it was not because the reels were cheaper, had to be the drag.
I've since purchased a few Hardy c&p reels while fishing in 11 degree F weather with no issue.
I have always been impressed with the beauty and level of quality of hand made reels but, to me, as long as they are functional I'd rather spend the money on rods

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I have one "Drag" reel for 5-6 weights and one for 7-8 weights. These are for my newbie friends that I am trying to save from having burns on their hands from the borax they use curing roe.

For me, the louder the better!!!! More drag needed? More pressure on the spool with my fingers.
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Had the same happen with my Abel Switch. Had to dunk it after every cast. Now I have a St.Aiden on that same rod---no issues.
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