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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 02-15-2019, 06:49 PM Thread Starter
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Switch rod/chucker line for mousing

Sorry if this has been asked before but I have an opportunity to fish Alaska in July and my friend said it's a great time to do some mousing. If I add my switch rod to the gear I take, would I add a floating poly leader to the chucker head and then tippet to the mouse or is there another method I should look into for this type of fishing with this 11' rod?

I'll also bring my single hand rods to fish mice as well but would like to try the swinging method for an option.

Thanks for any suggestions,

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I think swinging is the most fun way to do it. I'd look at one fo the OPST floating tips- a little more mass than a poly will carry the bug better and arrest the momentum of the head so you get a better layout.

Might want to consider something like a floating weight forward or a OPST Smooth so it's easier to strip/fish in close. Depending on where your fishing, it's not a lot of long casts- more working banks as you walk or flat down a run on small toe medium water. I fished a 10'6 and an 11'6 4 wt.
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I caught a couple coho on a mouse fly in SE AK last fall. I was using an 11'6" 6w switch rod with a floating Airflo integrated line, the Sniper 40+ short head. Worked like a charm. Got most fish on subsurface flies.


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My large Mouse Flies https://raspberryfisher.wordpress.co...r-fly-fishing/

My Switch Line Survey https://raspberryfisher.wordpress.co...nes-my-survey/

I know many really like the OPST Skagit, but after 2 years of experimenting, I actually shifting my preference away from OPST to the Airflo Rage for short small river swinging, such as with Mouse, for short rod spey casting.

If using a single hand rod and large mice with spey technique, I would be thinking 280 grains, and on the Rage on a switch 330+ grains.

As far as rods, for close in technique (and-or tree overhead) I am using:
* Single Handle Scott ARC 9'6" 7wt - 4pc. At times, a 8wt would be nice. (I do have a 9wt in Scott ARC. but I find this a little too heavy). It is usually line with a RIO Multi-Tip Line and most often with an intermediate tip. Whether it is a small muddler, rabbit tube, sculpzilla or a mouse.
* Switch - James Green 7wt 10'0". https://raspberryfisher.wordpress.co.../rod-building/ but as noted I am shifting to the Rage.

If I am heading to a trout river (for anything <10lbs), I will also add
* Meiser S1264 - 12'6" 4wt. I believe it is a 324gr SGS line (Scandi). This is my favourite 2H rod!

But if travelling by air, and do not want to pack long tubes, then
* Meiser 1305S 5pc https://raspberryfisher.wordpress.co...rods-and-more/ with a Guideline 3D 78. This is a 411 grain scandi.

If you looking to add a switch rod, consider if you want to be able to fly with it and put it in a small standard rod carrier. I do not have a Meiser switch, but in the absence of Scott ARC, I would look there first.

Last, if throwing a mouse of off the front of the boat into the weeds - single hand double haul - I will use Scott Merdian 8wt that replaced my old goto Loomis GL3 7wt. I might even go larger, if I am also going to through large pike and musky flies. https://raspberryfisher.wordpress.co...i-11wt-review/
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To answer another Q via PM on tips.

I will use F, I and 2. All depends on flow, water depth, et cetera.

It is is true mousing and especially water is calmer it is likely a F tip with a constant short strip in (usually). Sometimes, a F-tip, as the water is shallow. I have had a couple of great times where the big fish are shallow against the weeds with the wind blowing into the weeds. At night I have caught some nice fish with little to no movement.

Mid day, the fish may be shy, and I find it may be an advantage to get them a little below the surface. Or on fast retrieve on a sink 2, the mouse looks like a BIG meal.

I have one river, where the drops into a run, but the leading ledges has many fissures where the fish hide from the herons midday. Here, a little below the surface is good. If I continue downstream, I get into pocket water and then it is best to go to a F tip and then a sculpzilla to break below into the little deep pockets. Then it opens into a slow run, and then back to F or I (depending on the time of day) and the mouse. F at sunset, I mid-day.

anyway, this is my routine.
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just finish the smaller Mouse - CS52BLN (size 1)

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Maybe, I am wrong, but my thoughts on tippet - short and 12#. These flies are BIG and cut a wake, so I am not anticipating leader shy fish. I prefer Maxima Chameleon and Seaquar Blue FC.
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