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How to increase clicker spring resistance?

Looking for some ideas on how this can be done, example can you bend them and reheat them in the oven (what temp & how long) or a torch, do you need to quench it afterwards and in what oil, water??
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500 for an hour in the oven is what William Olson told me.

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great question! hope somebody can help.
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Looking for some ideas on how this can be done, example can you bend them and reheat them in the oven (what temp & how long) or a torch, do you need to quench it afterwards and in what oil, water??
Thx in advance...
Is it a current reel? If so, I'd try to get a stronger spring from the manufacturer/maker. I did that with my Bellinger G&P and my Brusky G&P. It made a world of difference.
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For old Hardy's, I bet Archuletta has a thought on this.
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500 for an hour in the oven is what William Olson told me.
Going to try this...Thx sinktip...oven is on!!!
Thx to all other replies...
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500 degrees for an hour…? springs can be small and thin. This is a metalurgy question, regarding tempering. From what little I know, a small spring can only spring so far as it is able; heated again after the event or not. If increased tension/ spring is required, find a heftier spring.

Having discussed the subject with W. Petrevan, who himself was after the Holy-Springy- Grail, for his reels, thicker and suitable sprung steel, is the way to go,

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Malcolm - I don’t disagree. The 500 degrees for an hour is to set a rebend on a spring. Sometimes a slight increase in bend is enough to tweak a spring.

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There is a guy called Bulldog on the classic reel sights tnst tunes up old gear and pawl reels. Here is his thread on how to do it.

The Classic Fly Rod Forum ? tuning pawl springs - compiled

Hope this helps.

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No Way!

No way would I try this on an old reel.

Fingertips on the spool for me.

I've mucked up too many things in my life by trying to be clever, and I've learned my lesson!

Fingertips on the spool.
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No way would I try this on an old reel.

Fingertips on the spool for me.

I've mucked up too many things in my life by trying to be clever, and I've learned my lesson!

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It is pretty easy Bob. I bet you would have no problem.

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For old Hardy's, I bet Archuletta has a thought on this.
I purchased heavier springs for my Perfects from him and I'd guess he has or can fashion them for other reels.

Generally I do what Bob does, I bought new springs when I had a couple break that's how I know he has them.
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I have an old Farlow Perfect that had weak springs. Archuletta made new ones for a very very reasonable price. He is a master.
All he needs is one of the old springs to use as a pattern.
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Just tuned a spring in minutes

I have never dealt with Archuletta personally, but have heard nothing but glowing praise for him, and I plan to have him fix a couple reels that I can't fix myself. I suppose my view is that tuning a spring is so simple tbat I would encourage others to try it first before paying someone to replace it. I had an older Hardy Hydra that I bought a while ago. I had heard that the they are very loud reels. Mine was not loud at all and I had not used it or messed with it yet. Some say that older springs relax a little over the years and the tension decreases. In the past I have simply removed them and manually spread them apart, then reinstalled them and checked the tension. Then it was just a matter of taking the spring out and popping it in the oven at 350F for about 10-15 minutes and cooling it to retemper the metal. This was all done according to Bulldog, the classic reel maven's instructions. Well just a few minutes ago I tried it on my Hardy and she now screams like a Banshee and the tension is perfect. Super easy! Nothing wrong with having someone replace the spring, just offering another way. Have fun.

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I recently purchased "heavy duty" springs for my modern day Hardy 4" Perfect from Archuletta's Reel Works in Oregon. They weren't too difficult to install but I had to take them back out because they were too strong!! Even with the adjustment knob turned in to take all the tension off the springs I could barely pull line off the spool. I never knew that springs would need too be "fine tuned" to get them to work properly. I should have sent Archuletta the reel and had him install the heavy duty springs in the first place as he would have the skills to do this.
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