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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 01-28-2019, 09:39 PM Thread Starter
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Help with Peerless 4A please

Anyone know how to open a Peerless 4A? I can"t find my OM and the internet has been no help so far. I'm pretty sure the drag range is adjustable, and I'd like to get in there to try that, but I don't want to just start pulling screws. At least not while I'm this sober, but the night is young. Please help future-me if you can!
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Are these not click and pawl reels? If so, it should be pretty straight forward. I would just take it apart, beng careful to retain all the screws in a safe place. Go for it!

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Sure looks like you'll need to pull some screws from here, but I don't know. FYI, sometimes they use Loctite or the like on these screws and you need to add heat to break them. It can be difficult. On one of my Hardy reels, I needed to change the foot, and couldn't break the screws. I bent 2 screwdrivers and mangled one of the screws. I had to send it in and they had to drill them out and retap the threads and use different screws. So, be careful and make sure you have good screwdrivers and a really nice fit.
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The go for it advice is starting to make sense...
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Well, good and bad news. The good: I got her open and buttoned back up with no issues. The bad: turns out the drag range isn't adjustable after all. At least not that I could figure out. Thanks for the encouragement.
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I have a bowl almost identical to the one you used to hold the screws. The wife made it in a pottery class. With the back plate off, did turning the tension knob cause the spring to move? It looks like it should be adjustable and make the spring move along the "teeth" in and out. You might need to take off that little plate where the spring engages the small gear and see if it is jammed up with old grease and debris. It may just need a good degreasing(cleaning). You could contact Archuletta in Grants Pass, Oregon and get his take on it. He obviously knows a lot more than I do about fixing reels. Hope it works well for you.

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very reminiscent... in 1996 I took apart a rolex.
it's still in a box somewhere.

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very reminiscent... in 1996 I took apart a rolex.
it's still in a box somewhere.

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That's an expensive box of parts!

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ha ha... if you can find it you can have it, mate.
worst idea I've ever had... and I've had plenty.

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Well, good and bad news. The good: I got her open and buttoned back up with no issues. The bad: turns out the drag range isn't adjustable after all. At least not that I could figure out. Thanks for the encouragement.
Actually, it is, just maybe not to the degree you're expecting. When turning that adjustment on the backplate it causes the part that enters the block right behind that knob to go in and out. That spring then has effect upon the pawl at the bottom of the photo and should provide at least a minimal difference in both the sound and the degree of effort it takes to remove line from the spool. I think this one is an early model, as when I've opened them up in the past things appeared a little different inside than what your photo shows. Also, the adjustment on the backplate is also positioned differently than what my photos show. Bob may have redesigned it a bit in order to improve the "drag" range. If this is critical for you, send it to Bill Archuleta and he can put it like new condition for a fair fee.

Having said all that I just realized it's a 4A, which is the spey size. Although it operates the same way as the trout models, the location of the various parts is different. It definitely is intended to be adjustable, however, so Arch may be your best bet.
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Thanks for all the help guys. The drag is adjustable, it works just like Nate and JR noted. It was the range of the drag I was hoping could be adjusted. I thought I could increase the lowest tension as well as the highest, sort of sliding the whole drag range up if that makes sense. One of my reels has that capability, maybe it's a Loop - disc drag, makes more sense really. Sometimes I just get a bug up my a$$ and I have to follow it through, right or - as in this case - wrong. Still a fun night and no reels were harmed. Now if I could just figure out why my pictures post sideways...

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And good eye Nate, I spent several semesters playing with mud and fire in the late 80's. I kinda miss it.
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Sometimes I just get a bug up my a$$ and I have to follow it through, right or - as in this case - wrong...... Now if I could just figure out why my pictures post sideways...

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Thanks for all the help guys. The drag is adjustable, it works just like Nate and JR noted. It was the range of the drag I was hoping could be adjusted. I thought I could increase the lowest tension as well as the highest, sort of sliding the whole drag range up if that makes sense. One of my reels has that capability, maybe it's a Loop - disc drag, makes more sense really. Sometimes I just get a bug up my a$$ and I have to follow it through, right or - as in this case - wrong. Still a fun night and no reels were harmed. Now if I could just figure out why my pictures post sideways...

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I'm betting Arch can even help you with that. Just be very specific about what you're looking for. He can perform miracles, believe me, and at reasonable prices.
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