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Danielson Reels

So, I love the H5D reels for Chinook and other big game. But I’ve never tried the control reel? Anyone out there with first hand experience lay it on me please ...........shotgunner, where you at?!

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Great reel, go for it. It utilizes the same drag package as H5D and if you like palming is very convenient, specially that handle does not turn backward.

Third image displays milii-plate drag package ( stainless-steel and composite material plates) , where composite material is made of ruluon mixed with 30-40% of aluminum bronze powder ( a very hard alloy made of
copper with 3-5% of aluminum) . There are virtually indestructible.
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bolen: Is the reel cage "virtually indestructible"?

I ask because I occasionally fish places where falling down and tossing the rod and reel is the norm.
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I ask because I occasionally fish places where falling down and tossing the rod and reel is the norm.
Yeah, I find that more the norm every year.
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ENSO, I was referring to drag package, mounted inside the reel.

Considering it is multi-disk system ,when this drag is set at 60 % max. tension ( level 5), it will take more then 100,000 m ( after translating number of rotations into linear length) of backing to reduce thickness of disks by 40-50%. So 1000 Chinooks or Atlantic salmons each taking 100 m at tension ( after adding RL/backing friction against guides) sufficient to easily snap 20-25 lb tippet.

Obviously Control Reel is most useful for large salt water species not necessarily Chinooks, Atlantics or Wild Steelheads.
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I was interested in this reel for a trip to Norway. So I bought one. It’s extremely well made like all Danielsson reels. My only concern is that when I play a fish I naturally try and palm the reel irrespective of whether it has a disc drag or not. I never actually change the drag when playing a fish. So is it too much reel for non saltwater fish from your experience?
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I don't understand the view that these are somehow too much reel for salmon or steelhead. You can set the drag as low as you want, to nothing if you wish, and hand palm away if that's your preference. Sure, they're very capable reels that have ability to fish salt if you're so inclined, but nothing says you have to set a doomsday drag on the reel. Why is it any different than a Saracione or any other high quality disc drag reel--you can set those to maximum too and you'll barely be able to pull line off the reel. I fish G&P click drags too, and sure they work for salmon or steelhead, but just because a reel might have additional capabilities beyond your immediate needs doesn't mean it's unsuitable for the purpose at hand.
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75% of the time for a wild Steelhead I play either with Olson Clicker 4" or Teno 4 ".

I use Danielsson H5D, HD or L5W, or Control too, specially for Alaskan Chinooks. From drag point of view either H5D or Control , both have the same dragging power, however you do not need to use the drag or have it set-up lightly.

With Control, when fish runs it is relatively easier to palm as spool/handle does not rotate backward . Also, unlike an older HD 11-14, ( 11.5 oz empty) H5W 11-14 weights 9 0z ( b/c smaller and lighter drag knob).

Control 8-13, weights 11.2 oz , so it balanced better a longer DG rods.
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ENSO, I was referring to drag package, mounted inside the reel.

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Understood. I just thought you or others might have an opinion on the reel cage and the vulnerability/robustness of the reel for hiking anglers who wipe out occasionally.

I suppose I am more concerned about how a reel behaves when thrown against the rocks than just how tough the drag mechanism is.

Way back in the day, I managed to 'kill' many large, powerful fish on the old classic Pflueger Medalist fly reel. (Not that I would ever want to return to those days.....)

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Daniellson drag

I owned 3 of Daniellson Reels, my favorite one was the L5W 6Nine. The build is solid and the drag is adjustment very smooth.
Here is the a video that I have while fishing it for American Shad. I made several drag adjustment while fighting and landing the shads.

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The control is a great reel. I love them for steelhead. Each has their own preference, but I like the ability to increase drag by using the handle rather than palming.

In regard to being robust, I treat everything with equal care -- in other words, they get used by an angler and things happen during the heat of battle and accidents happen when walking. I have not had any problem with the cage on the control, nor on the HD series.

Frankly, I think these are the best reels on the planet, especially when considering the price. I'm a believer

Just an opinion for what it's worth.
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Here is the a video that I have while fishing it for American Shad.
Looks like those shad give you a good bend! I got to try it one day.

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No reel should be judged on how well it can survive being thrown onto rocks, as none will survive unscathed. Swaddle it in several layers of neoprene, if you fear a fall, whilst transporting. Also break down your rod, just in case.

The design of the reel in question seems reminiscent of the Hardy Ocean Prince (1985-1995) , to me a veritable 'Dream Reel', with it's multiple discs in the drag, plus anti reverse handle. Similar design and function, although preferable to me.

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Is Hardy Ocean Prince drag sealed ?

You are right that No reel should be judged on how well it can survive being thrown onto rocks, as none will survive unscathed.

Danielsson reel have well recognize reliability and functionality.
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So, I love the H5D reels for Chinook and other big game. But Iíve never tried the control reel? Anyone out there with first hand experience lay it on me please ...........shotgunner, where you at?!
If you like the H5D, you could only love the Control reel. They have some advantages.
I am using Danielsson reels since they were first introduced by Loop. For many years I am in love with the Originals.
To be honest, I already reduced myself to Danielsson reels for any kind of flyfishing. And for the quality in comparison to the price I am wondering, how any other label can still sell reels...
But seriously:
I use two Control 8thirteen on my bigger rods (14í8 and 15í) and two 7twelve on my smaller rods (up to 13í).
They are really really the best reels you can get for money for the hardest conditions.
The only pity is, there is some uncovered use between those two sizes, as can be seen above, because of weight for balancing the rods and because of line capacity. The Infinity may be for Thuna...
If you look into recently discussions on SFF, you can see detailed descriptions from some others and myself.
You donít see any similarities between the Originals and the Control, but there are some.
One similarity:
The Control doesnít turn in line cast by cast as doesnít the Original, but because of different reasons. The higher inner resistance of the Control, compared to other reels with drag systems, avoids this issue (at least itís one for me, thatís why I donít like completely free running reels in forward direction...).
But see yourself.
I could highly recommend them.
Good luck !
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