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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 01-18-2019, 10:00 AM Thread Starter
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Reel for Loomis IMX Pro trout spey

I have the IMX Pro trout Spey 3wt and use the Battenkill IV click and pawl but find it too heavy for the rod. I’m curious about the loop opti series of reels. Has anyone tried them? They have the rapid (6wt) and runner (7wt) which I think may work but don’t know how light these reels are and if I should be going for a higher weight.
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I have the IMX Pro trout Spey 3wt and use the Battenkill IV click and pawl but find it too heavy for the rod. I’m curious about the loop opti series of reels. Has anyone tried them? They have the rapid (6wt) and runner (7wt) which I think may work but don’t know how light these reels are and if I should be going for a higher weight.
I have never used one of the LOOP-OPTI reels but the Runner is 7.23 oz x 4.53" dia. x 1" W
The Rapid is 7.0 oz x 4.13 dia. x 1" wide
Your Battenkill IV C&P is 8.5 oz x 3.75 dia.
and just for comparison only the Lamson ARX 3+ 7.0 oz x 3.75 dia. x 1.2" wide

I don't mind a little bit to heavy but to light or way to heavy doesn't help me as a beginner.
I have the Battenkill IV C&P on a 11-6 4wt trout spay and it's works just fine but is just a wee bit heavy.

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It all depends on the length of the rod and the weight of the line. You can't balance a rod and reel without taking the line into consideration. You need the rod lined with the approximate length of line outside the tip as you would expect for normal casting, then you can get a sense of how well balanced the combination is. I'd suggest going to a fly shop or a friend whose home resembles one and start experimenting, you'll find one you like and maybe save some money in the process. IMO, a trout spey doesn't need a super expensive drag. I use a Hardy Marquis 10 (narrow spool) on my Meiser 10'6" 3-4-5 weight switch rod.
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Yeah, I’d say 8.5 oz is probably noticibly too heavy for that rod unless you are completely indifferent to weight - some people are. The battenkills have big bones, which is a help at the heavier and longer end of the spectrum, but not here so much. Also, many will make a valid case of “who cares” for such a light rod. But for very light systems I feel like that very lightness is part of the attraction, so why mess up the fun of the feel and balance with a reel that is too heavy. A 3 wt does not require much volume either. I’d say you should be perfectly happy with that rod when using a reel as little a 5 oz empty. An old hardy princess would be awesome! As would a CFO v. An older Marquis #7 (heavier than the newer LWT versions) would also be nice, and is the reel I like on the exact Meiser rod glcaddis mentioned - I think you would be perfect with almost any reel in the range of 4.5-5.5 oz empty on that rod, plus or minus a personal fudge factor. This is the exact range of any old 5 or 6 wt-ish modern large arbor fly reel, but since you have a clicker I assume you are a highly sophisticated and descerning individual. Harder to find one of those that is right size at this weight, but still doable. Good luck.

If that is not really an actual issue for you, but issues arising from the narrow arbor at this weight are, then you could go the other way and get one of the Danielsson offerings, like the DryFly super large arbor.

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I do wish Orvis made the Battenkill in trout spey sizes. Like a 3.5 would be great. The 4 is just too big.

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Reel for Loomis IMX Pro trout spey

On my hydrogen 4wt trout spey I use a new hardy marquis salmon 1 for click pawl and also a sage 3280. Both work well and balance nicely, I really like the narrow hardy on it and I love that the rod is down locking, easier to balance different weight reels. The hardy is my 6wt spey summer reel so I only use this reel during the fall to spring on my trout spey and usually my drag during the summer. Full cage is the way to go with thin running lines, although I don't go super thin, 30-35 pound lazer line


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I own this rod and have fished it for one season now.

If I remember correctly, a 6.5oz reel will balance the rod +/- 2" down from the top of the grip.

That could be a starting point for your preference.
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Thanks for all the input guys. I think I’ll look for a reel in the 6-7oz range and stick to the Battenkill for now. I took it out yesterday and with the scandi line out it didn’t feel overly heavy. What are some old click and lawl reels that are on the narrow Side?
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Yeah, I’d say 8.5 oz is probably noticibly too heavy for that rod unless you are completely indifferent to weight - some people are. The battenkills have big bones, which is a help at the heavier and longer end of the spectrum, but not here so much. Also, many will make a valid case of “who cares” for such a light rod. But for very light systems I feel like that very lightness is part of the attraction, so why mess up the fun of the feel and balance with a reel that is too heavy. A 3 wt does not require much volume either. I’d say you should be perfectly happy with that rod when using a reel as little a 5 oz empty. An old hardy princess would be awesome! As would a CFO v. An older Marquis #7 (heavier than the newer LWT versions) would also be nice, and is the reel I like on the exact Meiser rod glcaddis mentioned - I think you would be perfect with almost any reel in the range of 4.5-5.5 oz empty on that rod, plus or minus a personal fudge factor. This is the exact range of any old 5 or 6 wt-ish modern large arbor fly reel, but since you have a clicker I assume you are a highly sophisticated and descerning individual. Harder to find one of those that is right size at this weight, but still doable. Good luck.

If that is not really an actual issue for you, but issues arising from the narrow arbor at this weight are, then you could go the other way and get one of the Danielsson offerings, like the DryFly super large arbor.
Hardy princess, so yes!! Have one paired up on my 1172 ACR trout Spey! Also use a sage 108M
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Hmm guess I’ll search for a hardy princess. What’s the diameter of this thing?
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Hmm guess I’ll search for a hardy princess. What’s the diameter of this thing?
The princes is 3 1/2”. Hardy lightweight series, just like the st. Aidan, which as far as volume goes is way too much. You can usually find vintage ones on eBay for around $200. Another one you might like is the zenith, another from the lightweight series - that one is about 3 3/8 ” but wide spool. It is actually heavier than the Aidan, but maybe LOOKS more like a “trout” reel. Aidan and the zenith both have far more room for backing than you will need with a 3wt. Both the Aidan and the zenith are good Steelhead reels for lighter spey rods 5,6 wt.

Weights EMPTY: Princess ~ 5 oz, st. Aidan ~ 6 oz, zenith ~ 6.6 oz

BTW all of these, like all the reels in the lightweight series, can be switched left or right hand in a few seconds. The zenith the pic just happens to be set up right handed.
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I own this rod and have fished it for one season now.

If I remember correctly, a 6.5oz reel will balance the rod +/- 2" down from the top of the grip.

That could be a starting point for your preference.
What reel are you using for this rod ?
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