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Tip Sizes Lengths for Nextcast WA45 8/9

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#1 ·
I'm going to start fishing a Nextcast WA45 8/9 on a Burkheimer 8139-3. What tips would you suggest using with a set-up like this? Could you cast and his 12' of T-11 or even 10' of T-14?

Thanks in advance as always,
 
#5 ·
There is absolutely no need, unless you want to, especially if you already have many tips. There is nothing special about the NC tips.

Yeah, the 8wt Rio replacements are the thing. Those are about 8 1/2 gr/ft, so the same linear density as t8, not t11. So t11 would be workable, but maybe not ideal. T14? just say no. :) Of course the replacement tips will have the advantage that they will all weigh the same for different sink rates. Anyway, the 8wts either the 15’, or cut back to 13’ are very comfortable on those lines. But ultimately if you match the grs/ft to that of floating tip the line came with (with a reasonable fudge factor) you should be golden.

There are also several other comercial DC tips available that fall into the category of ~ 12- 15’ and ~ 90 -110 gr!
 
#7 ·
I do not believe that the NextCast Winter Authority heads were designed with heavy tips (T-11, T-14) in mind.

That Burkie should throw 15 foot T-11 and T-14 tips with ease but normally one would match those tips with a heavy Skagit head (circa 600 grains or more).

One option would be to try a WA 9/10 head matched to a shorter 10 to 12 foot tip of T-11 or T-14 if fishing a WA, long Scandi-style head and heavier tips is the objective. The 8139-3 should have plenty of launching power.



JamesC, Just out of curiosity.... are you also fishing a Skagit head or just this NextCast WA head? Estuary or river? Will you also using the WA head with floating tip on occasion?
 
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#9 ·
Hi ENSO, yes I am fishing Skagits with T-14 much more often, but I love having three rods rigged with different lines, densities and flies. I've been trying to get a WA line system working for tailouts, etc... Plus they're beautiful to cast on a Burkie.

Thanks
 
#8 ·
Since the dc Rio replacement tips come in 8 ips there is no need to go to the heavier t11 that sinks at the same rate, unless that is all you have in the bag and want to make do. FWIW the heavier wa heads (and all of the ones from a given series, wa45, ff45, wa55 etc) have exactly the SAME front end. So while it is true there will be additional power (if the rod can take it) with heavier heads, the turnover properties will be the same. The wa setup with the 8wt tips in my experience can cast up to 5” intruders passably - YMMV - and it may start feeling like there is a narrower margin of error.

To my mind the whole arguement for using (and selling) the much more expensive NC heads is to achieve the kind of elegance you don’t get from a simple skagit head, while maintaining the ability to cast reasonable sized flies and tips. They are remarkable at how much they can do with such slender front ends, but push them out of the elegance zone and they may become just a crappy skagit head for you.

Some may argue that if you need > 15’ of 8ips sinkage that maybe you are not fishing to player fish anymore, but if you NEED t14 and t17 of course break out that skagit head. You get no points for extra suffering out there, and that is all you are probably going to get using heavier than t8 at the end of a wa head.
 
#10 ·
Agreed. Thanks. I'm not interested in chucking T14, although I know I could, just want to know what others are finding comfortable. Just out of curiosity I have a whole set of sinking poly leaders that are 10' and I know some are around the same weight. Anyone tried chucking these around on a WA45?
 
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