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post #1 of 43 (permalink) Old 12-28-2017, 08:38 PM Thread Starter
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A modern reel foot: improvement or defacement?

I have a 4 1/2 inch reel by Forrest & Sons, Kelso. Its thin lead patina is to die for, and its click drag sounds like raising the drawbridge of Macbeth's castle. It's a perfect reel for my 15 foot greenheart, but that's more of a display piece than a practical fishing implement. It fits that rod's Hardy-style sliding ring reel seat, but the reel foot, at 3 1/2 inches, is too big for any of my 15 and 15 1/2 foot rods.

I'm undecided: should I pay Archiletta to reshape the reel foot to modern dimensions, or would that be spoiling an antique?
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If it were me and I were in love with the reel and wanted to fish it...have Arch reshape it. May as well enjoy it.
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I faced a similar issue with an early English-made Hardy Salmon 2. The brass foot would not fit any of my rods. I solved the problem by offering to trade it for another Salmon 2 with a more modern foot. Luckily I found someone who had a reel and was willing to have the reel seat altered by Bill A. You might be surprised what kind of response you get. However, since you have the reel and seem to want to fish it, I'd have Bill fix it.

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Keep the original foot and have Arch make a new one that will fit your rods. Then when you pass it on, it may actually have more value instead of less. Some guys also put new reel seats on their rods to accommodate the older reels.
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Would it be a defacement of the rod you want to use it on to replace the reel seat instead? I don’t think the price would be more than a NEW foot. Taking a wild guess from experiences that the price to replace the seat and redo the lower handle would be around $30- 40 + price of chosen reel seat.

Shouldn’t either the seat be called a shoe, or the foot be called the butt?

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we need to stop altering history to suit our 'modern tastes'.
read into that what you will.

don't do it, mate. it'll be like turning '47 indian into a chopper.

either find a rod to suit the reel or alter a rod to suit the reel.
I don't know if you can remove the original foot and replace with new. but if that's an option and you can return it to its former glory after retirement that would be best.

final line is it's up to you and how much you value an 'original and unaltered' reel.

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It’s interesting, but doesn’t seem like people are picky in the same way about “classic” rods, probably because the technology changes so fast. I don’t include old bamboo rods in this of course. There have been a number of people posting pics of their “classic” rods with new-built, redesigned and personalized handles and seats. For some reason those rebuilds seem more lovable, not less.

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Mac - electrical tape is your friend. Tape the reel on and keep the foot intact. I used to have a very rare 3 3/4” Perfect with an altered foot. I fished it for several years that way. It helps that I had a Harding and Sons case so I didn’t have to take the reel on and off.
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I think you'd be surprised how affordably Steve Godshall would swap out the reel seat for you- less than a machined foot.
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I think you'd be surprised how affordably Steve Godshall would swap out the reel seat for you- less than a machined foot.
Great point and Steve would enjoy the project. I bet he’d have it turned around within a couple days of receiving it.
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Another thing; I've managed to cut one of the dual locking nuts off of a few reel seats and been able to get some vintage reels on 'em that way.
As a collector of vintage reels, unaltered is best if you can work it out. And as mentioned above electrical tape works. There are a few other tricks that work with the Young reels that I like. Secret though, I don't want to start a 'run' on my parts reels!

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Sounds like a real problem, a true struggle. Good luck.
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DON'T have the original foot machined down to modern AFFTA Fly Reel Foot Standards . Have Archiletta, Jon Larrabee ,or if you're here in Canada, Wayne Petrevan machine a new one . This way you can keep the original foot intact .
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Here is a picture of a reel seat I made that will fit older longer reel feet plus the modern AFFTA reelfoot standard. It is a mix of my own specs plus modifications requested by the customer plus still fitting a reelfoot that conforms to the AFFTA standard.



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I'm undecided: should I pay Archiletta to reshape the reel foot to modern dimensions, or would that be spoiling an antique?
For the record, I am full time steelheader and part time collector.
I have equally ground (precision) both sides of a reel foot to fit rods I really wanted to use. (No rare reels)
I have cut locking rings off rods.
I have rods with extended seats to accept vintage reel foot.
I would alter foot on reel before getting a replacement made, unless, foot is already held on by threaded fasteners.
Once you f with a reel, the "collector" value drops.
So I recommend grinding it down and fishing the hell out of it. (reference what i first said)
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