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post #1 of 4 (permalink) Old 11-03-2007, 08:52 AM Thread Starter
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Question Scandi Heads

After seeing our guide on the Deschutes throw the Vision heads he had on his rods, I am interested in trying them out. Would someone with experience be willing to go through the differences in the various makes out there? In particular, I would like to know differences between the Vision and the Rio AFS versions. If there is another make that you feel is superior to either of these I would appreciate knowing that too. At this point, I would probably stick with floating line applications. I am interested in one of them to fit on the Deer Creek 13' 7/8
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post #2 of 4 (permalink) Old 11-03-2007, 09:34 AM
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Rio AFS heads come ready to use out of the box with factory loops at both ends and are not intended to be cut or tuned. The front tapers are relatively fine so I'd assume they would make for nice, delicate presentations.

Vision ACE heads come in a variety of lengths and sizes, again intended to be used out of the box and uncut, however you will have to add your own loops.

Guideline Power Taper shooting heads come in 44' lengths are they are intended to be cut to suit your rod. As a result, they do not have loops. PT heads have powerful front tapers so they are better suited to wind, turning over Polyleaders, or large flies. My website has information on tuning PT heads and making loops.

Loop and Scierra also offer shooting heads, however, I'm less familiar with their current offerings.

Beulah and Snowbee offer shooting heads with built-in running lines if you want to go that route. I've tried both and they each cast very nicely.

We're fortunate these days to have a range of excellent shooting heads that will serve a range of purposes.

One caution, Rio AFS heads seem to be one size heavier than the Scandinavian versions, so a Rio 7/8 would be roughly equivalent to a Vision ACE 8/9. I tested an AFS 7/8 on my Guideline LeCie 8/9 rod and the load was bang-on.

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AFS - Vision

The AFS has a continuous taper, the vision is flatter. Both are great lines. Both are set at the factory and will work to some extent on any rod if you pick a grain weight which is in the ballpark. Like Peter said, Guideline heads are a step taper with powerful turnover and are made to be perfect on any rod, with 20 minutes of tuning.

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Thank you for the informative replies. I opted to go with the vision and can't wait for it to get here and start working on the underhand casting.
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