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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 07-09-2014, 08:15 PM Thread Starter
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Rage lines for switch rods?

Just had a very satisfying couple of days fishing two new switch rods, and it got me to thinking. I didn't have a dedicated line for either of the switches, but was able to pair a Rage line of reasonable grain weight to each of them and had a very pleasurable experience. What I found was a line that handled somewhere between a skagit and a short belly line (?), in that it was ideally suited to TnG casting, but certainly could toss some light sink tips/leaders with skagit casts as well. A bit longer head did make line handling/mending a bit easier and helped with presentation some.

I'm sure that others have done similar. Just curious to hear what other folks have experienced in terms of switch rod line options.

BTW the new Meiser 11'1" 8wt ROCKS!!! Couldn't hardly put it down long enough to really test the other
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What you may wish to consider are 'head systems.'

You have 'one' (with two rods two) shooting lines that loop to loop with the heads. These will/can differ greatly given what you're trying to accomplish ... but the shooting line doesn't give a hoot in hell what's in front of it (well, that's probably an over statement).

Simon G @ RIO has page after page of their recommendations for almost every rod ever built so from there you've got a good point of reference if you want to purchase a 'whole line.' If not Steve Godshall here in So. Oregon is 'DA MAN.' Each of his 'heads,' and he can supply the shooting line, are specific to the rod/fishing conditions/fly size and even how you cast.

That last may sound like a 'Say What?' But a given cast is just that .. but how you do same is quite something different. Casting experience (and proper training!) will/can alter that from person to person. In a nut shell, 30-50 grains in a given head can really make quite a difference.

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Airflo skagit switch. It's ripping good on my zaxis 11'7wt for heavier tips and flies
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Now if you think it's go to line for you then get a Guideline Bullet. Is is integrated and has very similar profile to Rage. Absolutely love this line, I just wish they had a bit hevier version available. IMO if you know the profile/weigh/lenght of head you like always look for the integrated option. Thats where chooping up beggins.

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I like the Rage a lot on 11'5 and 11'7. Not as delicate a presentation as a scandi, but can throw a long monofilament leader, a poly or even z11 on a 480.

I did try a buddy's Ambush recently, which is significantly shorter. Nice line, though I really had to keep my movements compact. I know some really tight little tribs it might be just right on.
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works well.

I recently tried the 390 Rage on my 6wt TFO DC switch. It works really well. I was using the buelah 380 scandi head before but found I needed something that could punch through the wind a bit better when I had less back cast room. This line fits the bill. |Have not tried the any of the switch lines on it so I can't comment on those. I did try some skagit lines but did not have any luck with them on this rod. The Rage seems to work well.
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If you're looking for something that approaches a long line suitable for switch rods, consider the Airflo 40+ Expert or Extreme lines.

The 9 wt. Expert is 425 grains over 44' while the Extreme is 400 grains over 35'. The primary difference between the two: the Expert has a slightly longer front taper and a much longer rear taper. Both use the Delta taper so they're very capable Spey casting lines.

These lines aren't designed to toss big tips, but the Extreme version is available in a variety of sink rates from intermediate to type 7, so there's a version available to get down as deep as needed. The type 7 will get down farther than any sinktip and handles very fast currents thanks to its thinness.

I strongly suggest that the intermediate versions be given a try. Couple one of those with a long leader and a fast sinking fly in cold water . . .

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It's all in the length of the taper. Shorter fatter heads/tapers (I.e rio chucker). will throw junk but suck to mend while longer heads (rio switch) present well.

I went through many switch lines on my sage one 7116 before I realized all of them did several thIngs OK but none did anything particularly well.

I now have a spool with rio switch for light presentations and indi fishing and another spool with a Scandi setup depending on how I want to fish (tbh I don't remember the last time I took out the switch line )





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