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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 05-15-2014, 11:52 AM Thread Starter
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Trout spey line quandry

I'm about to build my own two handed trout rod, an Anglers Roost UHM12 11' 3/4wt. I'm still very much not sure exactly what to line it with, and would appreciate any and all thoughts and advice. So far I've not found what the specific grain window on the blank is, although I would guess that the sweet spot would likely be in the mid to upper 200's?

Main interests would be to swing soft hackles, and both swing and swim streamers so a bit of mending and line control would be great. This would be a strike against a skagit head for me. Would also be ideal to be able to use some sinking tips, which is a bit of a negative against a scandi head. I guess I'm looking for something of a combination, like a Rage.

I'm not familiar with other lines such as the switch chucker, ambush, and speydicator, but those look like they might work well for my purposes too. I'm not really interested in using this rod with an indicator (I've got other rods if/when I want to do that), but I do want something with a bit more line mending/control than a short skagit head. Any other thoughts on trouting with a two hander? Curious what all you guys who use switch rods for trout like in your lines...
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Ever Considered a Silk Line?

I use an 8 weight Phoenix line on a five weight switch rod. Is great for swinging. Undressed it is an intermediate line or dressed with skate a dry very nicely. The line is 210 grains for the first 30 feet, but adds weight quickly as you go out beyond 30'. It is a DT line and can be reversed easily. I keep one end dressed the other not so I can use it however I want to.

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if you could find an older Beulah Elixir (complete line) in the 250gr, you should be golden.
Some shops have them on closeout.
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I'm guessing Steve Godshall has a some formulas for that rod. Buying a line from him, tailored to your needs, is no more than buying an off the self line. If you need his email PM me.

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Jason I have started using Lts' s sx lines on my small speys for a floater and the clear Airflo deltas for an intermediate. They have the bulk of their mass at the end of the taper and cast much like a scandi. Just go two sizes up. .. for example on my 3wt switch I cast a 5wt single handed line.
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RIO Scandi heads are made all the way down to 210 grains now.
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Jason,

The UHM 12 tapers are outstanding, they are my favorites. And Steve does have the book on them, he's getting ready for The Sandy right now, but should be back in the shop next week. Well worth a call.

I think if you check you'll find the Rage, Switch Chucker and Ambush are all Skagit tapers.

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Steve's numbers for that blank are 175-225 gr scandi, 225-275gr skagit, and 105-135 gr overhead. That makes it about equal to a 4 wt single hander for overhead casting.

That's the blank I was thinking about building a two hand trout stick out of myself. How's the action on it?

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Thanks for the feedback guys. I probably should just give Steve a ring, but I was hoping to have the rod all wrapped up and ready to hit the road on Monday, so time is a bit tight. Since I'll be up on the Trinity and possibly Klamath rivers and have a few days to kill afterwards I had hoped to get to test this rod out so I was thinking about just picking up a line at the local fly shop. Perhaps I should call Steve anyways, that way I can have two lines for the new rod

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Steve's numbers for that blank are 175-225 gr scandi, 225-275gr skagit, and 105-135 gr overhead. That makes it about equal to a 4 wt single hander for overhead casting.

That's the blank I was thinking about building a two hand trout stick out of myself. How's the action on it?
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I'm not exactly the most qualified to review the action on this rod blank, particularly since I've not yet fished it. I will say this though: I did build the 9' 6wt in the same series and have fished it on one multi day trip and loved it. Very stiff, fast and light. Did take me a bit to get used to it, but I'm pretty optimistic about the switch rod blank that I'm turning as we speak.
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Jason,
That's along the lines of what I was interested in knowing. If the 11footer is anything like the 9 footer (and it might not be) it sounds like it may be what I am looking for, a light but stiff rod for high stick nymphing. Give us a report after you get a chance to fish it.

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