Do you actually use a pfd? - Spey Pages
View Poll Results: I use a pfd...
Faithfully, every time I'm on the river 27 15.98%
Most of the time...when I think I reallly need it 41 24.26%
Occasionally...I have one but it's a lot of hassle 42 24.85%
Never...if you're careful you don't need them 59 34.91%
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post #1 of 61 (permalink) Old 07-09-2013, 10:57 AM Thread Starter
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Poll: Do you actually use a pfd?

How many people actually use a pfd?

I see many well respected members posting on this forum who advocate for pfd usage but I never see anyone actually wearing one in all the many fish photos posted.

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I've never used one, but I've decided it's time to do so--ordered my first. Some of the new ones are very high quality and don't seem to interfere very much if at all.
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Only when in the raft. I stopped carrying fly boxes in my jacket due to how cumbersome it is, you won't see me in a pfd

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I do sometimes. Not particularly often though, a lot depends on where I'm fishing. Most of the time I am really cautious about my wading, and I don't ever see the need to push things just to get that much further out there. As for crossing the stream, I only do that on really small low flow situations; even then I pick and choose VERY carefully where I do it. When I do wear a PFD, I wear a WW kayaking style PFD; I do not trust any of the inflatable ones, nor see any utility in them for my safety concerns in whitewater situations.

I would have voted, but really didn't see any choice that was particularly close. I wear mine sometimes, but I would hardly call it a "hassle" when I don't. Has more to do with the fact that my fishing vest and my PFD don't fit well together... which will be changed at some point. So for now it's a matter of choosing which one is more valuable to me, pretty much all the places where I'm spey casting I am not wading very aggressively at all so I typically opt for the fishing vest instead. Some of the places I go to fish for trout on the other hand are a little more adventurous and I will usually opt for the PFD in some of those situations.

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I usually think about it after the fact when I slip on a rock while wading in a
treacherous stretch of fast water. The wading staff has saved me many times but I think one of these times the law of averages will catch up and I will find myself in dire straights. I have a couple of inflatable suspenders that I plan on using this year.
I would like to see the wader manufacturers offer an inflatable collar around the top of their waders.
I know one did for a while but there was a problem with the foot size not matching the wader size.
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I would like to see the wader manufacturers offer an inflatable collar around the top of their waders.
That's an absolutely great idea! I wish the manufacturers would come up with something that's a better solution than what's on the market right now.

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I would have voted, but really didn't see any choice that was particularly close. I wear mine sometimes, but I would hardly call it a "hassle" when I don't. Has more to do with the fact that my fishing vest and my PFD don't fit well together... which will be changed at some point. So for now it's a matter of choosing which one is more valuable to me, pretty much all the places where I'm spey casting I am not wading very aggressively at all so I typically opt for the fishing vest instead. Some of the places I go to fish for trout on the other hand are a little more adventurous and I will usually opt for the PFD in some of those situations.
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That's the only thing that is making me hesitate to pull the trigger. I don't wear a vest but I do wear a sling pack. I can't visualize/figure out how to make them work together. If I put the pfd suspenders on top of my sling pack then I can't swing the pack around front; if I put the sling pack on after I've got the pfd on, then the pfd is not going to work. And where's a rain coat gonna go?

My wife would like me to get the pfd. I suspect I'm a poor enough wader that I probably need it...or will sometime. But I just don't see a solution out there that really speaks to the fly fisherman--they're all aimed at boaters.

And for those who voted "Faithfully" please, please, tell me how you manage.

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I'm bulletproof! No PFD for me... OK, I'm not, but I'm at FAR greater risk of death or injury when driving in my car to or from the water, and I still do that. Frequently. Sometimes, even in the rain. And snow (gasp!). And I plan to continue for many years to come. There's a whole host of things that are much more likely to kill me than drowning, so it seems kind of cart before the horse-ish to wear a PFD when I'm wading. I don't smoke, and I only drink in extreme moderation, so it probably evens out in the end, anyway. Yes, I'm taking a risk - doubtless, an unnecessary one - but life (at least one well lived) is full of those. I should probably blame my parents who raised me in a world without bicycle helmets or car seats, roller skating with no elbow/knee/wrist guards, and swimming immediately after a meal. Now, let's see, where did I leave that copy of Hiking and Camping in Bear Country....?

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Many big trout reservoirs/lochs here pfd's are mandatory and supplied by the fisheries, so when you rent the boat they fit you up.

I bought mine for salmon fishing, and wear it if any large, fast rivers are involved. I didn't take it to BC last year due to space restrictions (and probably cartridge transportation would have been an issue) but there were definitely some scary wading situations where I would have wanted one.

Just googling, a report on drownings in Canada, with the highest number in the Fishing category. http://www.redcross.ca/what-we-do/sw...wning-research
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A quote from First Officer Ripley...

Ripley: “Did IQs just drop sharply while I was away?”. So far 15 votes, and only one “always", that would be me. I will bet That NONE of the other 14 who voted have ever been involved in the recovery of a drowning victim’s body. And to think that I recently put myself in jeopardy to save two dumb asses who weren’t wearing PFDs. I swear that the next one gets just a goodbye wave from me!

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New unfamiliar water, yes I've worn one.

Water I know; no.


If familiar water is too blown out that I would think I need one, I just won't fish.

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In my younger years I would have scoffed at the idea of wearing one. How times change with age.
I wear mine faithfully. It only takes a slip in the wrong place and some stranger is knocking on what used to be your door informing your significant other the bad news. Let hope you were well insured.
After a lifetime of fishing and working on the water as a log scaler I could tell lots of stories about close calls. Fortunatley none involved fatalities although a few were very close.

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I don't, but concede that they make sense in very fast water with rocks & falls etc, or if you are solo in a boat - particularly in cold water.
All reasons not to wear one assume the angler is fit, mobile & can swim well, if you are not all three then a PFD seems the most sensible option - particularly if you have have dependants, which I don't, so I don't feel too guilty or negligent due to my omission.
That said they can be a pain in the proverbial....; automatic ones can go off in deep water when wading or when bending to tail a fish (this happened to my chum Paul - we were weak with laughter watching as his now fully inflated PFD lifted him off the bottom & he drifted away from the salmon which then got its' second wind & began to tow him around in a circle in a deep slack; I wish we had been able to film that!).
The old neoprene waders gave quite a bit of buoyancy even when they filled up with water, but whatever sort of waders you wear adding a wading belt is a good idea to prevent or at least delay them filling up as the weight of full chest waders can make climbing out of the river up a steep bank very difficult - particularly if you have been fighting a strong current to get there & you need to get out & safe fast before exhaustion or hypothermia render you incapable of doing this.

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PFDs

I have a belt-type that pops open in front I wear on the pontoon boat in moving water, and sometimes in larger still water where there might be boat traffic. If I know the wading is dicey, I'll wear it in moving water. Should do it more often as it's pretty unobtrusive. I almost always have a staff with me.

"Just googling, a report on drownings in Canada, with the highest number in the Fishing category." - Took a while to dig in to the stats, but there were 26 drownings of people "Fishing in water" in the 10 years '91 to '00 in Canada, all recreational fishing, 19 of them in rivers, presumably the key topic here. Many of this subset involved alchohol.

Not saying that a PFD isn't a great idea, but I'll borrow from an earlier point and wager that more than 19 recreational river fishermen died on the roads in Canada in those same 10 years...

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[QUOTE=buff;491206]Ripley: I will bet That NONE of the other 14 who voted have ever been involved in the recovery of a drowning victimís body.

Been there... done that...
had to open up the body bag and get the fingerprints of the victims in front of the family - including one where the family at riverside was an 22 yr old identical twin to the victim in the bag- not fun for anyone involved and completely preventable.
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