If you are upset why not vote the video down - he will get the message a little eventually. Better yet, let him know - politely. If you just rage-view it you are giving him views, and so may be inadvertently giving net encouragement.
I know getting rage-view hits is sometimes an actual tactic, but this one has so few likes you could do some serious counter “messaging”. Just saying! >
There is always a chance you will actually make the world a tiny bit better - someone may hear you besides the usual suspects.
How does one do that(those) thing(s). I certainly will send a message.
Edit: I figured out that by going directly to youtube I could give a thumbs down to the video and leave a comment. What is saddening is all the comments about what a great video/fisherman, etc. he/it is. Unsettling. I have said many times I will be glad that I'll be dead when folks of his ilk and age come to power.
The worst part is, he won't care one bit what we think. I can hear the ridicule of us coming out of his face as I type this. How did people become so self-centered and clueless? I guess it doesn't matter; they just are.
Gary
P.S. He doesn't look that big. Some of my younger salmon fishing friends in New Brunswick would definately show him the error of his ways should he attempt to "surround them."
With the crowd I have been running with for the past 30+ years dirtbag is actually a compliment (Fred Beckey?). We prefer to use the terms douchebag and a$$h0LE. The difference between the two is a douchebag knows he's doing it.
I could be wrong but Seemed like he was just trolling or being sarcastic. Making a meta commentary on how others behave in the great lakes.
Though if serious the behavior is unacceptable. I stopped fishing for few years when i was 12 because of similar experiences. Adults on a great lakes tribs fishing over me. The last straw was when i found some obscure eddie by reading water (as a young beginner with no lake run fish under his belt its a big deal) and some adult ran up fished over me. On his first drift literally right over me (by lifting his rod) he caught a big brown.'.. I was proud to see the spot i found held fish but very upset a grown man. With likely many fish under his belt did this to me.
Great lakes fishing in early season can be pretty terrible
Just to update. When mentioned in the comments (likely by one of us, as said above) he contends he was kidding leaving some info and offering to fish.
My Dad would have handed me my *ss if I tried to cut in on somebody's spot!
If it weren't for the accent, I'd swear this guy was from Central PA... many many "fishermen" here act similarly, some by design, some by instinct.
I'll bet he doesn't have a spare pair of waders in his car! Dunk him, fill his waders up, send him home cold and wet for the day. If enough of us polite fisherman do this, eventually he'll learn😉.
Seriously though, I'm with Botsari. Peacefully plant a seed, twice... then third strike he's getting wet! Or one could accidentally blow an anchor in his general direction. Some people only learn things the hard way... just sayin
"I was just kidding." "I was just being sarcastic." Heard those lines anywhere else recently? Tired of people coming up with that lame lament whenever they get called out on something. So I'll let my comments stand, and very unlikely that I will take him up on his offer to fish.
It is certainly one's right to give him or anybody else the benefit of the doubt on this subject, but I, for one, no longer buy it, self-indulgent or not. Your mileage may vary.
Kumbaya,
Gary
I will say I've never done any of the fishing in the Great Lakes tribs...and I based on what I've learned from friends I never will. It's unfortunate in that I suspect it could be a most interesting fishing experience to add to my resume...except for the low lifers.
Maybe it’s just me, but I thought it was pretty obvious he was joking. Thought it was pretty funny actually, he even laid on the accent for extra effect.
Maybe I’m wrong but I, too, took what the main character said as a joke – what not to do. None of his other footage showed him moving in the other angler.
By no means am I condoning crowding out another angler. I fish both western rivers and Lake Ontario tributaries for steelhead, and I’ve seen this in both places. Even in big sky country, where there’s generally plenty of room to spread your wings, people get in the way of one another. Agreed, it’s more prevalent on crowded rivers back east, where there’s just more people than space comfortably allows.
For those of you who have not fished Great Lakes tributaries – because of war stories you may have heard (true ones or those embellished upon, as anglers are prone to do) – please don’t let that sway you from checking out these waters. You may be pleasantly surprised about just how good the fishing and swing water really is.
But, wherever you fish - have fun, swing happy, get some tugs, and watch for the occasional knucklehead.
Yesterday I was practicing my two handed casts on a Ohio trib when a family of five set up a camp chair fifty yards up river and proceeded to yell and splash all the way down to my spot. I quietly reeled up and walked away to jeers of "look at all of these fish here!." I don't know if it was ignorance or intentional rudeness. I felt sorry for the kids whose father is a jerk. They don't have a chance of learning manners. I found another quiet place to cast. River karma will find them to their disadvantage. I found my solitude elsewhere. There's a peaceful place within walking distance. It's best to move on and find it.
It might be the only outdoor recreation they have and the only way to get out and cool down and enjoy the river. Id chalk it up to ignorance and move on as you did.
How you portray Canadian GL rivers is no doubt accurate and may it always stay that way for you.
However, fly fishing many of the best US-fed GL rivers -- particularly during the fall and spring salmon and steel head runs -- is far from that ideal situation.
You are almost never out of sight of other fishermen and much of the time have a hard time accessing prime water unless you get there before 0 dark 30. Some prime spots occasionally can get elbow to elbow. Then the aluminum hatch begins. Slobs are not ubiquitous but frequent enough to be noteworthy.
Just another GenX production with a WTF attitude that is not worth responding to. He'll grow out of it but maybe not before someone gives him a black eye. I've seen much worse behavior from "adults" here in Massachusetts. Visit the Cape Cod Canal sometime when its busy and you might see a couple of guys in a fist fight if someone's "spot" is already occupied. Take your boat through the Canal and someone might aim a lead head jig at you. I got overrun by a father and his adult son staying at the same lodge I was at in Alaska. They stomped right through the middle of the pool. The guides rolled their eyes but didn't say a word. Had to take meals with them in the mess hall for the rest of the week too.
That’s funny. The first non hockey fight I was ever in was striped bass fishing on the canal by the Academy. I was thirteen or so and the other guy was in his forties and he wanted to take me on. After that I always thought knuckles were a regular part of casting for stripers.
They tell me the Salmon River in NY is much more peaceful now, but when I was in grad school, working on my PhD right handy to that river (mid to late '80s'), I used to sit on the bank, eating my sack lunch, and watch fist fights the whole time. that was in the snagging days. Some folks say it is much better now. Trust me, I have no interest in finding out.
Kudos, though, to those that have found ways to fish that river in peace.
"Steelhead Jim it was a joke Sir. I have never surrounded a fisherman or never will. I’m sorry you did not pick up on the joke. After this clip we walked upstream, greeted the other angler, wished him luck, and kept walking upstream. I am sorry you got the wrong perception of this. Don’t jump to conclusions so fast. Take care Jim."
And again:
"Steelhead Jim yes I have had it happened to me as well. I agree that it is unsportsmanlike to do such a thing. Again I apologize that you got the wrong message from the clip. Take care"
And again:
"It was just a joke. I understand your aggravation towards my comments of the other angler. I just wanted to joke around. I would never do that to another angler. After that clip we walked up stream, greeted the other angler, wished him luck, and kept walking. Don’t draw conclusions about people so fast. I would love for you to come fishing one day with me and we can start over on the right foot. Take care and good luck fishing!"
I have to admit, I did get a kick out of the video! That used to be my "home river(creek)" back in my earlier steelhead days when all knew was indicator fishing with egg flies and nymphs. I agree, I took what the guy said to be a joke. Unfortunately, his joke had basis in fact. It was not unusual that if people saw you having success in a spot they would move in pretty close. Now that I've become quite the spey snob I've generally moved on to other waters that are a bit better suited to swinging. I do occasionally miss the numbers that nymphing could produce in those waters, though...
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