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Breaking down two-handers in between spots

I’ve seen some guys take their rods apart at the middle and use elastic bands to secure the two halves together. Does anyone here do this or something similar? Is there a better way?
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When driving between runs, walking or floating?

Walking, I walk with the butt of my rod forward, as you're much less inclined to drive the tip into the ground and break it. The line loop snagging on brush behind you can be minimized by hooking the line in a stripping guide, looping down around the reel, and reeling up snug. Then grab the butt and the upper grip and give the rod a couple gentle swirls, and the line will wind snuggly around the rod and catch on a guide. When you arrive at the next run, grip the rod the same way, and swirl in the opposite direction to unfurl the line.

When driving between runs, I just mount in a rod rack.

Floating between, I'd rather leave them strung, but it does take rod-tip awareness to keep them out of trees/brush.

If driving between without a rack, or floating heavy brush/tree areas where you may want to have the rod shorter, place your fly in the first guide above the middle ferrule and leave a bit of slack in the line. Separate the middle ferrule, then fold the rod tip down and align at the butt. Snug up the line with the reel. Bind together- I prefer either velcro strips or the rubber twist ties, both of which re available at hardware stores.
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Walk in's I cut the fly off and break the rod down cause its usually a bush wack and only takes 1 minute to string up the rod again. In the boat I leave it rigged.

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I always walk with the butt pointed forward for the reasons stated above. I find it amusing on fishing shows, a lot of the times they are walking with the tip pointed forward. Like the tip about taking the rod apart in the middle.

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I use one of these; leave the fly on, reel in, break down rod and away you go. I do use velcro cable ties to hold the pieces together.
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When walking it is always with butt of rod forward, both single and two-hand rods. When Harding and Sons was still around I had them build me a case similar to what Jake is showing, except mine was 8' long. It fits in the back of the 8' bed of my truck which has a canopy. I keep the rods strung up, break them down in the middle, and just slide them into the case. I have two other cases from them that are 5' for single-hand rods and I do the same. I am camping most of the time when I use those and also have three dog kennels in the back of the truck, so the cases just sit on top of the kennels. All of my Harding carriers hold two rods each. The rod carriers that stick to the hood are nice and a friend has those, but I carry multiple rods and do not want to leave them out while fishing. I am also on dirt and gravel most of the time and the thought of rock hitting my rod / reels keeps me from using those.
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Iíve seen some guys take their rods apart at the middle and use elastic bands to secure the two halves together. Does anyone here do this or something similar? Is there a better way?

Yup. That's me: Two rubber bands and a reel case, and only gets better from there. One thing doing this with a long leader - the butt section can end up wound into the reel a few turns that may need to be straightened again.
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....place your fly in the first guide above the middle ferrule and leave a bit of slack in the line. Separate the middle ferrule, then fold the rod tip down and align at the butt. Snug up the line with the reel. Bind together
This is what I do most of the time. Works very well whether you are driving, walking or floating and is super fast to reassemble.
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+n for that. It depends, on the situation but for minor bushwhacking and especially cars the method the OP was referring to where you take apart a 4-piece in the middle after reeling in so the fly is at the tip, fold it in half, and tie it together covers a lot of situations. A lot of us use velcro cable ties - one order of those from amazon is a lifetime supply, but plain old twist ties work fine as well. Two is usually enough, and just spiral them flat on the outside, no need to make the usual loop. One last turn of the reel to take up any remaining slack, and go.

Anyway, that is the “level one” breakdown for minimum number of steps. A suggestion a guide gave is that he always places the top section so that the more vulnerable tip is against the handle, but short enough that is is not sticking out PAST the other end and puts one of the ties there, against the fattest part of the cork, but snug. That way you know you will not accidentally bump the tip. Ties go between guides so they don’t slip off, etc. Even if you are a taper like I am this is pretty fast, and even a 15’ fits (only just) inside my little hatchback.

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It depends on how I'm moving between fishing spots. If I'm walking and there is a decent trail, then I carry my rod assembled and strung up, butt section forward. If the going is a little rougher, or I'm driving to the next spot, then I dis-assemble at the mid-section ferrule and wrap the two sections together with those plastic twist ties from the hardware store. I like the bright colored ones because they have a tendency to get lost. If it's gonna' be a bush whacking trek, then I dis-assemble all 4 sections, while leaving the rod strung up, reel in slack line, wrap with twist ties, and insert rod in this fantastic rod sock an acquaintance made and gave me. It consist of one long sock section a bit over a foot long and a second sock section about 6" long, with the two sections joined by stretch cord. The rod is well protected in this sock, allowing me to crash through all sorts of jungle vegetation, pucker brush, and whatever else is out there.
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I use these, or something similar, and they're pretty darned nice. Keeps line from getting tangled with other rods, or with limbs, shrubs, etc.

They roll up pretty small, come in different colors, and in different lengths. It won't cover the reel, and if I had one suggestion when using this, make sure your fly is hooked to your reel. If your fly is hooked to a guide, and it gets tangled up INSIDE this rod condom, it can be a bugger to get out!

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I take the four sections apart, hold the tops together with a rubber band and cover the reel with a neoprene reel pouch that also wraps around the base of the rod sections holding them together.
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I’ve seen some guys take their rods apart at the middle and use elastic bands to secure the two halves together. Does anyone here do this or something similar? Is there a better way?
I like doing it that way. It’s a pain in the butt breaking a 13’ rod down with all the line and stuff regardless of how you look at it. But this way I think is as efficient and safe as I’ve tried

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Iíve seen some guys take their rods apart at the middle and use elastic bands to secure the two halves together. Does anyone here do this or something similar? Is there a better way?
For quick spot hopping or when I want to keep my rod rigged up, I do it this way. Hook your fly on the guide just above the junction of the 2nd and 3rd sections, reel up the slack, split the rod and fold the tip down towards the butt. Hairband on the top, reel case on the bottom and it's good to go. For long term storage, I do the same thing, but cut off my fly and reel in all the line. If you don't, your tip/head can develop a nasty bend.

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I always break it down, it's not difficult but makes everything else easier.

Reel the fly to the tip top, break the rod in half, point it up and let the top section hang. Reel up again to bring the top half section tight to the bottom but in half. Then use whatever you prefer to lash the sections together at the butts and the tip to the grip. I like those flexible wire things with rubber coating, they're like big Twisties. I just wrap it around a strap on my pack when not on the rod, they work great. A reel case over the tip section adds some protection but isn't necessary. It takes about 30 seconds. I learned the dangle and reel move from Mike McCune. It works best because there is not slack line or leader dangling anywhere.
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