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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 12-18-2019, 03:51 PM Thread Starter
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Two Hander in the salt

Been having a ball in the salt lately with a CND Oceana 8/9/10 blank I finished recently, 400gr skagit underhanded.
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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 12-18-2019, 05:30 PM
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That looks like a great spot to fish.

I took an older Sage Brownie 7wt with a FIST and T14 on my buddies sled into the bay around Coos Bay on a whim one time while crabbing. I used some of my older B-grade articulated steelhead flies in bright colors and absolutely killed it on Black Rockfish. Each person in the boat limited out taking turns with that rod. We positioned the boat about 100' off the jetty with the nose of the boat pointed at the jetty. Standing at the front of the boat you can spey cast at the jetty easily. The incoming or outgoing tide causes the fly to swing at a pretty ideal pace. Casting the fly so it landed 10'-15' off the jetty we hooked up around every third cast.

My belief was that the flies were so different than anything else normally thrown at these fish that they just went nuts over them. Many of the flies resembled pink/white squiddy single stations. Using a lot of rubber leg material and flash for movement, I had initially tied them as winter steelhead flies but considered them too overdressed and gaudy even for winter steelhead.
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Here on the coast in Northern California, its common for us to be out fishing the surf with two handed rods, casting overhead. The longer rods really help with line management and being able to lift your line above the shore break. 126 5/6wt rods and Rio Outbound shooting heads do the trick for striped bass and surf perch.


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That's a nice Kingfish

Tell us a little more about how you fish them. I have a note to visit the north island one day and sight fish for kingfish with a singlehanded rod, but could always adjust the dream to accommodate a two-hander.
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Are you chasing these fish in tidal waters at the mouth of the river ??
Looks like a beautiful area


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cool; whats the length of the rod.
Are you using intermediate clear lines?
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At first, I thought that was a bluefish (Pomatomus saltatrix) but wondered where this black sand beach was. Then I saw your location. Apparently bluefish do occur in New Zealand but are known there as a tailor. So which is it, a tailor or a kingfish (Seriola lalandi)?
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Looks like a Kahawai. Fairly abundant in NZ waters & readily take a stripped fly on incoming tides.
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Thank you all for the interest, questions and salt water experiences shared re , velocity and halfpounder

chromedrifter; you got the species bang on, Kahawai , yes they readily pursue a well presented fly and give a very good account on the line
end in the shallow estuary waters using the current and wave surges to their advantage.

speyday:the rod is 11'1" with the grips done switch rod length not as per CND beach rod spec. The skagit is SA intermediate sky blue.... will try opst 325gr float and tips, still to try an over head line but with all the drift wood at my back and steep sand shelving I'm happy to stay underhanded.

Tom.B Tailor would be a very rare catch in NZ , the humble Kahawai, Arripis trutta, is the species, yes the quite different and unique black sand... or iron sand, rich in minerals and a valuable mining resource with some major players wanting to start seabed mining operations off the coast.... no way man!!!!

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GR8LAKES FLYER and Snagly, I fish the estuary mouth at the ocean convergence zone timing the last 2.5 hrs of the run in tide, due to the narrow funnel shape of these the tidal push fair rips through, fast enough to swing it like a river and over the change I resort to stripping in. Its a rugged stunning coast not overly fished with the possibilities of a few over species available, I hope to cover these with a future update.

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Your "humble" Kahawai looks much like a bluefish (tailor) in your picture and the pictures I can find on the web. Convergent evolution seems to have favored these very distantly related species (only related at the order level). Even the descriptions I find of how Kahawai behave when hooked sounds like a bluefish. To go one more step, the comments about their culinary qualities could have been written by anyone who catches and eats bluefish. IIt looks like you have a great salt water fishery.
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