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Click and Pawl reels in salt/brackish water

I've been fishing the local lagoons quite a bit the last year and the saltwater has really put the hurt on my poor '30's Hardy Uniqua. I really love click/pawl reels and am considering buying another one specifically for brackish water fishing. Considering an older Hardy Marquis/SA System reel. Any thoughts?
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I also fish brackish waters. I frequently rinse my reels with fresh water dry them thoroughly and then I wipe down with boeshield. after the season I take line off and do a thorough cleaning take reel apart rinse components then apply the boeshield. If not your reel will begin to pit or worse.
I neglected to follow these steps told to me by old time hardy users and learned my lesson after one season.
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I once saw a guy with a bad-ass looking Hardy zenith that had the face almost entirely melted off from exposure to salts - I had to ID it entirely from the shape. It was here in NorCal and I think the pervious owner took it to pyramid lake. Worst case scenario that - loads of salts AND also alkali. But brackish will do the same, just much slower.

But there WERE a few saltwater clickers made by hardy, and even some saltwater versions of some “classic” hardy reels (including the Marquis reels I believe) made out of resistant materials. You can find these on eBay, but they are relatively rare. I’m sure there are people on here that can reel off (no pun intended) all of them and the dates. If you can find one of those that is not also a collectors item. I have a click and pawl in very much the style of a Marquis made almost entirely out of plastic - there have been many of those made.

But for anything even mildly salty I’d personally do what most people do and use a cheap super-anodized, sealed disk drag LA reel designed for saltwater - they are a dime a dozen and will not make you cry if they get ruined. If you want to go nice them maybe get a Nautilus or similar. There are certainly some really beautiful reels designed for the salt, but if it isn’t one of the ones specifically labeled as a salt water reel (and possibly even then) I’d stay away from the salt with any of the old hardy clickers.

I know having an old clicker on your rod says “I’m a discerning person that cares” ... in fresh water. In salt or brackish water it kinda screams the opposite, maybe “I deface Greek temples”. I don’t know how that old zenith managed to have its inner workings survive its encounter with pyramid - possibly it was worked on - but the current owner was not intending to ever let it see any more.
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Here is a pic of the mostly plastic reel I mentioned. This one even has a plastic ratchet and pawls! Not necessarily saying a guy who owns an old Hardy Uni would go for it, but this one is a Pflueger Summit 1294.
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Thanks Botsari...Are you in Humboldt?
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Thanks Botsari...Are you in Humboldt?
No, I live in the SF Bay Area, but am jealous of my friends that are closer to Steelhead. I guess technically I’m less than a mile from an actual Steelhead and Coho (small, coastal) river but I feel guilty trying to fish it since they are both barely hanging on there.
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I believe Islander makes anodized click and pawl reels.
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Saltwater is a hell of a thing to do to a classic Hardy. I would never use a leaded or enamel-finished reel in the salt. IMO, Anodized or
powder-coated is the only way to go...and even at that, judicious rinsing and lubing after every use is a must.
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I guess by definition brackish is more salt than fresh im not sure if im quite doing that but I fish within view of the ocean with the coolest bunch of old timers and a few new timers...MOST of us have vintage Hardy reels if you take care of them they will take care of you.

I would never dare deface a greek temple? but I will definitely fish my hardy reels within view of the ocean.

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I only did this once, and after every outing I brought the rod and reel in the shower with me. Let the bath fill up while showering and just let it sit in there. Fortunately, no issues

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Consider some of the newer options Speyco or the more economical Orvis Battenkill CP. There are finish options in these that will handle it just fine.
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Consider some of the newer options Speyco or the more economical Orvis Battenkill CP. There are finish options in these that will handle it just fine.
The Battenkill clickers are pretty tough reels. I was using my 5 in the salt earlier this year. When I was done fishingI would tie the backing off to a ported section after separating the reel from the cage, throw it in a small mesh laundry bag for delicates, then toss it in the dishwasher. Good as new. Id always dab a little grease on the inner mech after washing.
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I've been fishing the local lagoons quite a bit the last year and the saltwater has really put the hurt on my poor '30's Hardy Uniqua. I really love click/pawl reels and am considering buying another one specifically for brackish water fishing. Considering an older Hardy Marquis/SA System reel. Any thoughts?
Thanks for any help!
I'd like to add a nice, older Uniqua to my gear - just haven't seen the one I want (3 3/4, ported, with tensioner and "telephone" latch (older)) in a while. Haven't shopped around that much either...

Anyway; I've been using Hardy Marquis and Perfects in saltwater for two years now and counting, without any real damage from saltwater itself. Actually - I prefer the Perfect with it's simple MKII check design since it is easier to disassemble and to clean on a regular basis than that of the Marquis reels.

The Marquis have a plastic tensioner which must be removed in order to disassemble the reel for cleaning and so one has to take extra care not to strip the threads when putting it back together.

In saltwater, when a fish takes I am more often using a strip retrieve presentation and so I am hand-lining it. Allowing the fish to take long fast runs is just not an option. In other words the gear cogs and pawls are taking less 'wear -n- tear' now in salt-water than they did previously when I used them in streams. The only other thing I have to look out for is sand from waves breaking dead-on the beach and splashing onto the reel, and water soaking into the backing where it will make prolonged contact with spool surface. So I avoid dunking the reel in water, peel the line off on a regular basis. Occasionally the backing too but I need a better line winder to do THAT more often. Meanwhile between regular maintenance, extra spools and simply switching between reels - I think I've got it well covered...
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That ported tensioned telephone latch Uniqua would be really nice, but what a tough one to find that would be.
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That ported tensioned telephone latch Uniqua would be really nice, but what a tough one to find that would be.
you're right and I could settle for a St. George hint, hint.
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