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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 10-18-2019, 05:48 PM Thread Starter
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Spring Browns

A cool and blustery spring with frequent cold fronts with lots of moisture has kept river flows up and suited some superb trout spey action here on the West Coast of the North Island NZ.
Tubes with my own machined up cones in various weights, have been very effective in the short fast flowing pools and runs. The cones are a very snug fit on the tube requiring only a dab of super glue gel on final fitting. I find black rabbit offers a good silhouette and wriggle factor in the tannin colored water of a falling river flow, fished with some strip in the swing fires up these hungry fish.
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Nice fish!

I was fishing just a little below there in the weekend, and caught one on grey rabbit fly too
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What a beautiful brown !!
The river looks to be filled with ankle busters, careful wading
Hard to beat those rabbit strip flies/tubes/shanks ... deadly built-in action !!


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Beautiful Brown. That could be the sister river of one of the rivers I fished in Newfoundland.

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Lovely fish, fly, and water.
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post #6 of 22 (permalink) Old 10-23-2019, 06:28 PM Thread Starter
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GR8LAKES FLYER: Thanks, I have been rewarded with some nice fish this spring, experimentation has its rewards
Correct on those rocks, my poor wader gravel guards are shredded and some ibuprofen helps at the end of the day....have had a few WET wader days, face planting with lots of hand waving as I go in, luckily in shallower runs.
Rabbit and pine squirrel are two materials which are so versatile either left on the skin or in a dubbing loop... which also suits my rustic tying style.

eriefisher: Thank you, yes those boulders and studded runs look very similar, I have often thought what our rivers would be like if the hundreds of thousands of Atlantic Salmon smolt our pioneers released in the early 1900's had taken....interestingly the browns manage in this river but not rainbows

Cheers kinigit and leakingwader, it is a nice early season place to swing
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Question, do you apply a strip or add any action when swinging for browns? anecdotally I fish a fair bit of wild resident brown trout water and seem to find that resident browns enjoy a stripped fly. Much more then a even swing of any speed and fly position. especially the decent sized to monsters with huge heads to eat that huge prey, Rainbows tend to be the exact opposite. again this is all anecdote but even when i scour the internet for ''trout spey'' 95% is bows video's and information...I really appreciate your time and insight if you felt like answering. That goes for anyone else!
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Nice looking flies! That looks like a tricky river to swing...
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This is a great post, but I have no idea how you swing a fly through that water.
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Nice looking flies! That looks like a tricky river to swing...
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This is a great post, but I have no idea how you swing a fly through that water.
Yep that would be a challenge, that was my crossing point, here's a few shots of swinging water
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Working the down stream

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Question, do you apply a strip or add any action when swinging for browns? .......... ...I really appreciate your time and insight if you felt like answering. That goes for anyone else!
This works for me, I cast quite square to the flow, if I can I will throw in some loose line after the cast, the first part of the swing is fast when it comes up under tension as it tracks more across than down, now as the swing slows...this is somewhere about 45 degrees up from dead down stream depending on flow strength....I start to introduce a strip. I'm sure at the above stage a brown will have spotted the fly and is tracking it, you now introduce the strip and the wick is lighted, that fish is in predator mode now and wants that fleeing prey bad!!
Strips will mostly be an arms length, steady in turbid water, increasing in speed with water clarity, and always random patterns with stops/pauses breaking the groups of strips. I'm still playing around with strip patterns finding different pools/water/rivers have their on requirements.
Also that rod tip is always active, guiding and flicking in an extra twitch when a strip isn't possible, for me 9.5' to 10.5' microspeys works best, dictated by river size.
The most challenging and for me the most satisfying water to get a brown from is the fast boulder studded knee deep runs with swirly flows where your strip starts immediately after your fly lands and you guide it through the different flows prospecting pockets in the laminar flow.
Would be good to hear about your technique, river type, fly size and thoughts.

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A really interesting post ,especially as I am heading over to New Zealand in a few weeks time . I have never swung a fly in this type of water and there is plenty like it over there. We are fishing the South Island this time and with spring river flows likely to be high I have a number of flies,similar to the one shown . Your excellent description of working your fly though those boulder runs certainly lifted my anticipation for my trip .
I would also be interested to know what weight line and type of set up you using
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Beautiful places and your fish is like a salmon in size.

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Simply gorgeous!

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... for me 9.5' to 10.5' microspeys works best, dictated by river size.
Would you mind sharing what line weights and types of lines you use?

Like an unconscious answer to a question that has been troubling me for long, or a sudden opportunity to achieve something valuable I had almost given up on, the fish is there.
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A really interesting post ,especially as I am heading over to New Zealand in a few weeks time ......
I would also be interested to know what weight line and type of set up you using
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Would you mind sharing what line weights and types of lines you use?
The two rods I use are built on CTS Affinity One blanks, very similar in action to the Meiser 10' Trouters. The 9'6" rod will cast skagit 160-220gr and the 10'6" will do skagit 220-270 gr and T8 10' and it did manage T11 10' by mistake when I mixed up tips quite a gusty blank, no big distances cast though...20 metres ...with a cone head tube. The smaller rod will cast a lighter custom headed cone tube with pine squirrel body or bead headed zonkers size 8-10 using 6 ips poly 10'.

Both rods have cast opst, airflo scout, SA speylite all good products but....
the two lines I use most are cut skagit lines with higher original grain weights.
This gives me more grains per inch in the rear half of the line to move mass at the other end in restricted casting situations (loads the rod quicker) and the lines are quite short to suit the smaller and shorter swings. The lighter head is 11' 160gr and the other is 12' 270gr.

Its taken a few seasons to refine my setups specifically for the waters I fish here in the spring and with good results... as we move into November its all about sight fishing, single handers, nymphs and dries.
But any time there's a fresh and the river dirties out come the skagits.

Cheers Michael
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