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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-25-2019, 11:23 AM Thread Starter
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Columbia Run; I know it's still early but...

It's trending below even last years numbers.
94 over Bonneville yesterday, 100 day before that, that's like 60-70% of where we were at this time during last years dismal run (I'm not doing the math).

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post #2 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-25-2019, 11:38 AM
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Ouch! I would have "liked" this instead of commenting, but a "like" is not appropriate.
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Yep, it will be a bleak year.

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Ouch! I would have "liked" this instead of commenting, but a "like" is not appropriate.
Yeah, it's disappointing to be sure.

Hopefully the run will increase and meet or exceed predictions/expectations but I'm doubtful at this point.
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Ugh yikes.

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as I never look at the steelhead counts.....but now I did..... regarding this post....:
the Swiss steelhead aficionado will once again head over the pond to enjoy some beautiful days on the Columbia tributaries.

looking at early November (probably can't go sooner) for like 2+ weeks I really don't care how many fish are around as long as C&R fishing is open.
But yeah, for everyone that's desperately hoping that the black line shoots up asap, I also hope that people do get a positive vibe soon.

For me its just enjoyment and catching is a bonus but in all honesty, I had my grinds as well last fall. A golden day on the Klickitat saved it all. in terms of catching at least.

Regards everyone and yeah, as always maybe see you on the swing run in November..... ;-)
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Yep, looks real bad. Only getting worse, too.

You all might as well stay on your couches like last year.
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Unless things markedly and miraculously improve, I won't be fishing this year. Just can't justify it anymore at this point. I'll be swinging for trout and smallies.
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A bit early to worry for me.... but I am a glass half-full kind of guy.
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It sure seems like the Columbia and tribs are suffering greatly in the numbers dept the last few years.
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post #12 of 21 (permalink) Old 07-01-2019, 01:40 PM
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It sure seems like the Columbia and tribs are suffering greatly in the numbers dept the last few years.
I wish I was more of an optimist, but I don't see how it's not going to keep getting worse. Nothing is changing from a management perspective. Hell, people I know who are supposedly conservation minded are still "selling" the summer Columbia steelhead fishery with their posts on Instagram. I'm over the romance for free crap when our fish are going extinct. The dams (especially on the Snake), the slack-water invasives, hatcheries, and the ocean conditions are just a perfect storm. Not going to change fast enough, especially with a government that will always choose profit first. I'm focusing on bass fishing right now, basically because I'm sick of being so sad and depressed about it all the time. I hope everyone donates to the organizations that are working to save this fishery.

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While dammed Columbia river is doing poorly, free flowing Alaskan rivers are doing much better.
So far two major river like Yukon and Kuskokwim ( twice bigger then Skeena) on the west are having one of the best Chinook runs in 25+ year. The only better are 2003-2005 runs.

Below are graphs for these two major rivers. In Yukon it is based on sonar counting, while on Kusko is based on fish test in Bethel near Bearing Sea. Some major Kuskokwim tributary located further upstream and in lower drainage ( size of Bulkley or bigger) are already confirming the run ( sonar or weir counting). Good News draining directly to Bearing Sea so far has the best run in 25 years. So far Sockeye in Bristol Bay and Cooper have at least average run.
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While dammed Columbia river is doing poorly, free flowing Alaskan rivers are doing much better.
So far two major river like Yukon and Kuskokwim ( twice bigger then Skeena) on the west are having one of the best Chinook runs in 25+ year. The only better are 2003-2005 runs.

Below are graphs for these two major rivers. In Yukon it is based on sonar counting, while on Kusko is based on fish test in Bethel near Bearing Sea. Some major Kuskokwim tributary located further upstream and in lower drainage ( size of Bulkley or bigger) are already confirming the run ( sonar or weir counting). Good News draining directly to Bearing Sea so far has the best run in 25 years. So far Sockeye in Bristol Bay and Cooper have at least average run.
I guess all of us PNWers just need to get rich so we can go fish where there are still fish.

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My point was that a natural habitat is very important.

Yukon and Kuskokwim watersheds are huge and very remote territory, mostly occupied by natives in a handful of small villages scattered here and there, and accessible by boat or plane with very little sport fishing going on. Even if you are rich, unless you have family or friends living there, know the area by fishing there for many years with Grizzlies, know how to operate jets lead in a very tight space !!!!!!, ( gravel bars, logs etc. ) you are not going to do well anyway.
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