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Rod Wrappers

Just looking for opinions from the folks here that build there own rods. Do you use a power wrapper? Which make and why? Maybe you have some V-blocks you made yourself? What other tools did you make or purchase to assist in you obsession? Any info you would like to provide would be helpful. I am considering giving it a go and try and get set up before fall.

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Perhaps someone with a lot more experience can correct me, but I’ve always had the impression that power wrappers were strictly for speed - for people who do a whole lot of rods commercially. Perhaps there are some specialized wrapping patterns where they are necessary. I have a sully rod wrapper - basically an extra nice dovetail style rig. It’s set up to control the tension on up to 4 threads at once - only done up to two at once myself. It’s pretty fast for hand wrapping, and does a beautiful job. Personally the only difficulties/issues with wrapping I’ve ever had has been learning how to get a flawless tuck and cut at the end - something the power wrapper wouldn’t have helped with. Apparently the sullys are not in production any more though some people are selling ones that work along the same lines. If you are not familiar there is a video below.

FWIW I also use the sully dryer, and the conversion kit to turn a high power drill into a cork lathe. Been super happy with the latter as you can do pretty much any length spey grip. The set up to get a balanced turn takes a few minutes more than a real lathe, but I only do 3 or 4 per year, if that.

Personally I found that it has been well worth the price in buying a set of four tap bits for making the insets for the reel seats in the cork. I realize this can be done by reaming out a single ring and then gluing, but after doing this several times I really appreciate the bits, and get very neat results. So that is a tip/suggestion from my amateurish experience, FWIW.

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I have the ALPS power wraper from Batson Enterprises and is the best around, bought it because of the head and chuck are bulletproof and is great for turning cork. I also have a cradle for wraping by hand, is just as easy but you will need a dryer for epoxy cure.
I would see if a local shop does classes, they will have the cradles to use and one can try it before they make the leap to purchase all thats needed. That said, its very easy to build rods and can be done in very short order. Have fun, its as easy as tying a wollybugger!
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That one does look very nice - a lot cheaper than I expected too. If it doubles for turning handles then wish I had considered it when I got started!

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I hadn't seen the Sully before. Looks like a simple system but effective.

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Dan I have both a manual and a power model. I use the manual for the wraps and the power for the cork. The manual is the eco wrapper and it is pretty darn good in my opinion. If you are even slightly handy you could build your own in a heart beat. The power wrapper I have never tried to wrap with but it is perfect for cork and in the summer I use it in my shop to dry a rod so I do not have to do it in two sections. I like to build big sticks and my wife gets grumpy when I take up the whole living room drying a rod.
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Yes I was just going to make up something going by different approaches I've seen. I probably have enough stuff around here to put something together. Turning cork would be a whole other endeavor I think. At least to build something. I have seen some decent wood lathes around at garage sales and such. That should cover that end. There is a guy on Kijiji that has a PacBay power wrapper but he doesn't have the thread carriage. He is asking $100 but it's a bit of a drive for an incomplete system.

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For Single and DH rods a power wrapper is not necessary. I still use my hand wrapper that I made out of $20 of wood and hardware from Home Depot. Maybe took me an 1hr to make if that. I would google DYI Rod wrappers and you will see lots of different easy to build examples. The one I built is similar to this one https://images.app.goo.gl/7Fg1e5WJ3ftc4oMq8.
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I’ve done it a few different ways: from handmade V-blocks, to a cheap handwrapper from Batson, to a power wrapper from Batson. If you are just trying things out, I would definitely go simple and go cheap. The only real reason I bought the power wrapper was for turning cork tbh. I had a handmade “drill lathe” that I turned several handles on, but I was never happy with it (the handles turned out ok, but the lathe was very iffy to put it mildly). I have found there are some things I do enjoy about the power wrapper for wrapping guides, but mostly it’s not needed. It’s a bit of an investment to get into if you’re not sure, but similar to fly tying it is quite rewarding to make your own rods or build them for friends.
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Securing guides or ferrules..wrapping thread…nothing more needed than your fingers and the spool of thread..easy peasey.

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Sully

I use a Sully and I like it. But I am not sure it is made anymore. I bought it more than 20 years ago from Anglers Workshop
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I made a hand wrapper and a cork lathe using a drill. Both have worked fine for me. I bought the CRB drying motor from MudHole. If I was building the wrapper again I would mount the thread spool vertically, with the spool horizontal. The way I have mine the thread likes to get wrapped under the base of the spool on occasion. Also my tensioners loosen as the spool turns. I think the features I like most are the strips of magnetic tape on the V-rests which make safe and easy storage of razor blades and I out another piece in back that keeps a little ruler in place. Good luck getting set up!
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I've got a Pac Bay power wrapper for wrapping and a 13x40 metal lathe for cork.
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That some serious kit there!

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