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post #1 of 39 (permalink) Old 06-11-2019, 12:42 PM Thread Starter
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What's happening with sales?

There was a time on SpeyPages when virtually everything posted for sale was scooped up quickly, if of good quality and value. These days it seems very little sells at all--I mean things like Hardy Perfects, Saracione reels, Burkheimer rods etc. offered at what appear to be great prices with no interest. Has anyone else noticed this, or am I just seeing things differently? The economy is in good shape, people are still fishing, but? Or has a few years of acquisition just left everyone with more tackle than they can use?

Just curious if others have observed this trend.
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post #2 of 39 (permalink) Old 06-11-2019, 01:19 PM
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Funny you mention that. I was a bit surprised that some stuff Iíve posted in the last 6 months hadnít had the attention I would have hoped for. Granted I wasnít selling Saracione reels or Burkheimer rods... but still. Good question as to why.
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Yes,I think you are right.
I have noticed a similar trend.
I think there are so many more options for tackle now itís diluted the market a bit.
I fish vintage gear to be in touch with the anglers and craftsman of yesteryear.
I have little interest in the latest carbon fiber drag or 2 Oz rod.
I like to the idea of challenging my angling skills by using the tackle that was used
For a 100 years, where my drag on a hot fish is my finger on a spool.
I think this may be lost on the newer generations.
Also They have little disposable money for expensive tackle due the
Lifelong debt of school loans?
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I check the classifieds daily just to see whatís on offer.

It seems to me there is a lot of shorter, lighter rods and reels and other newer gear offered.
As an older retired traditional fisherman not much of that is of interest.

Perhaps a generation of younger, short rod Skagit fishermen are moving to longer rods and mid/long belly lines that are challenging to cast and fish?
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Interesting questions. My take is slightly different and I wonder if it has more to do with tastes changing. I seemed to notice after Hardy reintroduced the Perfects that the market for the vintage ones declined. And now the resale market on the new ones is stale too. I think people soured on Perfects.

The market for Burkeís has slowed too and Iím not sure why.

Saracioneís Im not sure. Complicated with the Mark V introduction and you donít see many of those come up. The Mark IVís do and Iíve been surprised at at least one 4 1/4 that hasnít moved at a very fair price but then again that model is a heavy beast and not for everyone. For what itís worth, having both, Is still prefer the Mark IV over the V although the lighter V in 4 1/4 would be a better match for many long rods.
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Perhaps the increasing lack of fishing opportunities is part of the reason. Anglers, especially the newer ones, might be reluctant to spend $$ for higher end gear with such bleak outlooks for fisheries.
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I don’t have visibility into the metrics... but I would guess the departure of people/ change over in the last few years is a major factor.
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post #8 of 39 (permalink) Old 06-11-2019, 10:06 PM
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I've noticed this as well. I posted a mid-range rod (TFO Deer Creek 15' 8/9) some months ago, and had little interest. The only PM I got regarding the rod was from a member who was looking for something a little more in the higher end, so I'm not sure if the trend only applies to higher-end gear.

Which reminds me, I should bump that rod soon!

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many won't post outside north america.
which is understandable... the post office can be a scary place.
they may have forms that need filling out.

'west austrailia'

seriously though I think we're older, wiser with wonga and pretty much already have everything. hell, I've at least two of everything so I can at least find/coerce/dupe a playmate.
if I lived in cali/or/wash I'd be looking more to spey selling than purchasing with the never-ending downward trend; especially if travelling was limited. there just seems little point nowadays from the lacklustre fishing reports...
unlike love I truly believe I'm luckier not to have it at all than to have had it and lost it.
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Well said Shawn. I think your close to spot on there

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Well the fishing around here is nothing like it was 20yrs ago, but I'm buying more than I need cause there is that never fadding want!


Just picked up my second Riverwatch, have a Petravan reel due this fall and an Olsen somewhere down the road too!

But I have some gear that didn't get very many inquiries so I think things have slowed for some stuff but other stuff goes quick. It seems to change weekly so I'm ever searching for the few remaining items to round out the collections!

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This is my 5th year in the "game" and my tastes have moved from the Sages/Winstons/Abels to now only fishing for Steelhead/Salmon with custon built B&Ws/Farlexs and Pre war Perfects. Adding to the repertoire now with Reids and Olsons. Lots of money "invested" and "wasted" along the way buying and selling. But none of my other hobbies allows me to get so deeply in my own head when I'm standing in a BC river with barely another person around. That said...I'm always on the lookout for highend gear and SP classifieds is one of the best places to spend my down time. Whether or not things have slowed...I don't think so imo. I know what I like at this point and if it shows up I snap it up SP or other places.
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Originally Posted by Green Butt View Post
Perhaps the increasing lack of fishing opportunities is part of the reason. Anglers, especially the newer ones, might be reluctant to spend $$ for higher end gear with such bleak outlooks for fisheries.

You just hit the nail on the head for me. Coming from BC, my opportunities are diminishing quickly. Between dwindling stocks with rivers closing to First Nations blocking rivers and the back country, I don't see myself buying new/old gear anytime soon.
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Originally Posted by SalmonCane View Post
Just curious if others have observed this trend.
Cycles and trends are everywhere.
get with the program - it's all about the trout spey yo'
29er's replaced by 27.5+
mountain is now gravel
craft beer replaced by craft distilleries
atkins is keto
station wagon is SUV
canoe gone now it's yaks
Sucks getting old - shiny new $h!t just isn't as appealing
I now tend to ramble....carry on....

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Several valid points detailed above. Been discussing this very issue with several industry folks over the past year and will add this; spey is no longer the new thing. We've been at this for at least a couple of decades now and many/most of us have now tried lot's of gear and pretty much know what we like. Plus, the gear has matured a lot and we are not seeing all of the giant leaps forward in rod options, line design, tip options, etc. The evolution has slowed.........and fortunately, we have an amazing array of sensational gear to show for it! Great time to be a spey freak.
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