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Disappearing glaciers NYT article

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Consider the source, after all it's the NY Times.
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Thanks, jdcross... I enjoyed the read. Shooting the messenger may be great sport, but I'd opt for focusing on the message.
Another treatment of this subject can be had via Netflix, titled The Polar Sea in 10 episodes. There's a lot to learn if one has a will to.
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perhaps the story is not as black and white as it is made out to be.
kinda long:
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Sorry Green Butt. Stopped listening after one minute.
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No intent to shoot this messenger, but I can't find out who he is. Green Butt, can you help?
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Enso why be sorry?

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In some places there may be huge gains in salmon habitat, said Kara Pitman, a Simon Fraser doctoral student in the group who is modeling how and where habitat increases as glaciers shrink. In some areas of British Columbia, she said, “in 25 or 50 years, watersheds may be full of salmon.”

But over all, the gains might not be so great, given the other changes affecting the fish. “It’s more that salmon populations could be redistributing,” colonizing new areas and abandoning others, she said. “Salmon do have an amazing ability to adjust and adapt.”

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I have no intention of engaging in debate on this topic, merely presenting an input.
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Thank you for posting the article. Twice a year for the past 25 years I fish Southeast Alaska, specifically the Stikine River and Bradfield Canal. In the last 5 years the visual evidence is astounding. Countless mountain tops are now nothing more than bear rock that have for 10's of thousands of years been snow covered. The Le Conte Glacier at water level has receded drastically. Temperatures are warming and I am not sure there is much that mankind can do to reverse that, but better understanding the effects and how best to deal with them only makes sense to me. Again, thanks for posting.
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Consider the source, after all it's the NY Times.
...because they are right all of the time.....or not.
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Melting glaciers and ice caps is a story that has been covered by not just dozens but hundreds of news media outlets around the world.

The New York Times continues to be the most prestigious English-language newspaper in the world. It remains an influential gatekeeper though that role appears to be shifting more and more to news agencies.

For those who want the NYT and other media outlets to be more "objective", alas, I wish you good luck; I for one, do not live in that alternative universe.
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Consider the source, after all it's the NY Times.
They do have one of the more solid reputations, in terms of journalism and professionalism, of any current media. Doesn’t mean you have to like it, or agree with what they write, but to suggest that they as a source are providing unreliable information is a huge step further. Among those who care about quality journalism, including groups that monitor media bias, transparency, sourcing, etc, as well as journalists themselves; the nytimes is still considered one of the most trustworthy publications. In these days having professional, well sourced information is crucial, regardless if we agree with or dislike some of their content. I think these guys give a pretty fair critique: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-times/

Was there something specific about this article that you felt was inaccurate, misleading, or unprofessional? I thought it was fairly interesting, and wasn’t exactly what I’d expected. Brief, sparse, but intriguing enough to make me want to learn more
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Not sure what the debate is here? It's happening, no questions asked. As to the cause of rising temperatures, that is another topic. There are still people who believe the earth is flat even though we have scientific and nightly visual evidence, it is not.
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And now for balance (sic).

Global warming is shrinking glaciers faster than we thought - 08 April 2019, Fox News

Melting glaciers on Alaska’s Denali will unleash tons of human poop - 03 April 2019, Fox News

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