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post #16 of 27 (permalink) Old 12-30-2017, 07:33 AM
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Illegally guiding?

Sorry but of all the raps out there against a guy that one comes closest 'jay walking' and, barring other truly serious misdeeds, would not alter my view of any man's life work.

Helll, it wouldn't even count much in his favor given my lifelong tendency to respect guys with more balls than I have who ignore the ever-growing overreaches of the nanny state.

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another good quote is we all have skeletons in our closets, great analogy from you

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Illegally guiding?

Sorry but of all the raps out there against a guy that one comes closest 'jay walking' and, barring other truly serious misdeeds, would not alter my view of any man's life work.

Helll, it wouldn't even count much in his favor given my lifelong tendency to respect guys with more balls than I have who ignore the ever-growing overreaches of the nanny state.

How do I contact Nile Creek?

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[QUOTE=DDB;2261210]Illegally guiding?

Sorry but of all the raps out there against a guy that one comes closest 'jay walking' and, barring other truly serious misdeeds, would not alter my view of any man's life work.

Helll, it wouldn't even count much in his favor given my lifelong tendency to respect guys with more balls than I have who ignore the ever-growing overreaches of the nanny state.

How do I contact Nile Creek?

So I guess at the end of the day hitler wasnít a bad guy either just made a few mistakes but Iím not gonna judge him on it.
I find it mind blowing that this doesnít bother a lot of you. The money from license fees goes back into paying our already undermanned and under funded conservation and fish research which are fighting the good fight to try and protect what we have left!buy not buying a guide license Courtenay choose not to support the resource that he makes a living off and ďhas a passion forĒ. Itís not just one time itís been years and years of guiding without a license! And if you think heís paid the fine off....wrong! Buy chooseing to support courtenay you are saying that itís ok not to support the fish we love! Buying a license is the most basic way to give back and its the law! Not asking him go clean up an oil spill,just buy a effing license!
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Hitler?

High dudgeon and metaphoric overkill seem now to be as epidemic as the flu.

Equating failure to buy a license to mass murder is just about as confused as it gets.

But then with ANTIFA and the hue and cry over butt patting grabbing all the headlines I guess it is inescapable.

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it blows my mind how most of you have no clue who this guy is. I get it. You make a transaction from afar, he's a nice enough guy. You get a good deal. you save $20. he Throw in a sticker. Whatever. You guys are all gaga over him?

We have to live with his doing. Right here on the island. And it's not that big of an island. You think he learned his lesson? You think he's remorseful. think again. he is still doing the same thing as if nothing happenned. You guys should have a conversation with the local conservation officers.

Not only he's been guiding without a license for a long time. But he's been taking whole group of people to sensitive fishing spot, naming secret rivers online, and countless videos of poorly handling fish for the sole purpose of selling his gear. Most local fly fishermen don't want to have anything to do with him.

I'm a guide. I am bound to certain rivers, and some other rivers where I would love to take a client, doesn't have any more rod days available. I respect that. That's how we manage the pressure on our river. He goes wherever he wants.

I've read a lot of bull $hitt on Speypages about how bad the First nation are and so forth. Or bashing other poachers etc. But then comes the guy who never gave two $hitt about the fishery. An actual convicted poacher, And you guy are praising him? WTF???
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I understand everyone's passion involved here ....

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Guiding is making profit off a public resource. In BC to hold a guide licence costs $600+ a year. You need insurance $1500/yr. All boats you use (including inflatables) need to be certified and registered with transport Canada. You need FN and gov't permission for specific provincial parks (and have to pay $$ for each park). And the licence holder is only allowed to guide on certain rivers that the government agrees to. Accepting money to take someone fishing without all this is unfair to the great people out there with small family businesses that follow the rules.

Since guiding is making a personal profit off a public resource, it is not a stretch to equate it with mining, logging, or commercial fishing. All which must be done with government permission and within the rules agreed to. To protect the resource, and level the playing field for competition.

I would not equate illegal guiding to Germany's behavior during the second world war as was previously mentioned, but I would say it is on par with black market logging, mining, or commercial fishing. Which I am certain we can all agree are terrible offences.

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This photo sums up a lot of the way Island folk think of illegal guiding... from a campsite near a river on the Islandthis summer
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I started this thread to share my experience with NCFS and their service, specifically mentioning my interaction with C. I respect all the opinions and experiences stated in this thread whether similar or different from mine. As the OP of this thread lets close this one down and focus on the good we can do for others and our fisheries in 2018. Best to all on Speypages in the New Year.

(If you have grievances regarding person's mentioned in this thread you can be bold enough to settle those with them individually or start your own thread. I will no longer post to this thread.)

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(If you have grievances regarding person's mentioned in this thread you can be bold enough to settle those with them individually or start your own thread. I will no longer post to this thread.)

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I guess it's just hard for us islanders to see someone getting so much praise when we know what's up. And I would hope any of you would do the same for me if i was to be misdirected. I think it's important to be in the know. Some people are very good at charming others.
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