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How much does that beauty weigh?
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That is one sweet reel! Keep that one close by

Out of curiosity, do you think there any danger of exposing yourself to lead? i think lead paint was stopped in part due to exposure risk. Just a thought....

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Yeah I do! And?

Kidding apart, There's a lot of leaded Hardy out there still. I personally own Some. if it was a real issue. I'd be dead already. Kids! don't do what i do. Do what I say.
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15oz Naked. it's a 4" diameter. 1 1/2 wide inside of spool. 2 1/4 wide outside.
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Nicely done man! Good taste

I just love seeing all the different bench made click check reels around North America. When I first started fly fishing I never understood why someone would spend good money on reels that weren't high end disc drag.......I totally get it now. They are just way cooler, way more fun, awesome tools to have on a Spey rod........oh yeah, and you guys know there is a little surge of pride knowing you just landed a beautiful anadramous fish palming the reel when everyone else has 'fancy' disc drags!!
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That is one sweet reel! Keep that one close by

Out of curiosity, do you think there any danger of exposing yourself to lead? i think lead paint was stopped in part due to exposure risk. Just a thought....

Lead poisoning - Symptoms and causes - Mayo Clinic

I think it just results in addictive behavior...... to hunting up more of them.
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That is one sweet reel! Keep that one close by

Out of curiosity, do you think there any danger of exposing yourself to lead? i think lead paint was stopped in part due to exposure risk. Just a thought....

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Wayne has posted about doing this very reel and applying the "Leaded " finish . NOT to worry there's NO lead involved
The result is absolutely outstanding !!
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Beautiful reel and impressive website. He does outstanding work!

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Oh **** John! That thing is a beautiful reel! Now not only do I have to worry about your old ass falling on the rocks now I gotta stress about you wacking that beauty off a rock!
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Gorgeous! Would love to hear that sing
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Oh **** John! That thing is a beautiful reel! Now not only do I have to worry about your old ass falling on the rocks now I gotta stress about you wacking that beauty off a rock!
You know me better than that Nick. I welcome the future scratches and dings. It's my reel. Made specifically to abuse. You only have to worry about my old ass falling on the rocks.
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Very nice!!!
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Unfortunately i still haven't had a chance to use it. I cannot wait.
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There is no lead in a lead finish, as it is carbon which is not toxic per se. Similarly, there is no actual lead in pencils. They are made of an admixture of carbon and clay, the more clay the harder the pencil.

The first carbon was discovered in ancient times in Cumberland , northern England. An 'ancient' finds a black lump in the ground when a tree blows over and not knowing what it is, rubs it on a nearby rock and it leaves a mark similar to actual lead, so it it generically referred to as 'lead' even to this day. The Cumberland pencil company thrived making pencils in the area although the local carbon was depleted some time ago. I think that they obtain their carbon from India, if memory serves.

Carbon, or Plumbago, as it was more usually called, comes halfway along the element scale between diamonds and coal. Its interesting stuff, as it can withstand very high temperatures and easy to work, they used it to make the molds for cannon balls. Carbon is used all over the place these days, including lubricating computer hard drives.

Mixed in a paste it was used to black the Victorian kitchen ranges, again due to the heat involved. One of the brands was Zebra Paste, and it is thought that Hardys used that to 'lead' their reels due to empty wooden trade boxes evident in the photos taken in the reel shop in the early 1900's.

There is a modern incarnation of Zebra paste which (I hear) is useless for reels.

A good modern lead finish remains one of the 'holy grails' in reel making circles, it cannot be achieved using the old methods as reels now (such as Waynes) are not cast then machined, they are made from modern high grade billets, very different to the porous cast 'pot' metal of old.

It looks like Wayne has done a fine job on the reel posted, and hear that he may be working more with lead finishes on some of his reels in the future.

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There is no lead in a lead finish, as it is carbon which is not toxic per se. Similarly, there is no actual lead in pencils. They are made of an admixture of carbon and clay, the more clay the harder the pencil.

The first carbon was discovered in ancient times in Cumberland , northern England. An 'ancient' finds a black lump in the ground when a tree blows over and not knowing what it is, rubs it on a nearby rock and it leaves a mark similar to actual lead, so it it generically referred to as 'lead' even to this day. The Cumberland pencil company thrived making pencils in the area although the local carbon was depleted some time ago. I think that they obtain their carbon from India, if memory serves.

Carbon, or Plumbago, as it was more usually called, comes halfway along the element scale between diamonds and coal. Its interesting stuff, as it can withstand very high temperatures and easy to work, they used it to make the molds for cannon balls. Carbon is used all over the place these days, including lubricating computer hard drives.

Mixed in a paste it was used to black the Victorian kitchen ranges, again due to the heat involved. One of the brands was Zebra Paste, and it is thought that Hardys used that to 'lead' their reels due to empty wooden trade boxes evident in the photos taken in the reel shop in the early 1900's.

There is a modern incarnation of Zebra paste which (I hear) is useless for reels.

A good modern lead finish remains one of the 'holy grails' in reel making circles, it cannot be achieved using the old methods as reels now (such as Waynes) are not cast then machined, they are made from modern high grade billets, very different to the porous cast 'pot' metal of old.

It looks like Wayne has done a fine job on the reel posted, and hear that he may be working more with lead finishes on some of his reels in the future.

Malcolm
Thanks Malcolm. Very interesting info.

When I contacted Wayne about the possibility of leading my new reel. I explained to him that when I was a child in Quebec. We had a large cooking wood burning stove in the kitchen. it was the main source of heat and the also the main cooking surface.

Once a year. My mom would "lead" the stove. "Miner" in french. In french, the lead of a pencil is called "mine". My mom would clean the cast iron surface. Then, apply a generous layer of this blackish paste and she would rub it in for an hour or so. Then, she would wipe the excess and kick us out of the house. Open all the windows. And burn a fire in the newly leaded stove. It would smoke like hell for a while. Very stinky. Once all smoked out. The stove would be left with a nice new looking shiny top. Very similar to an old hardy.

This information, Was the backbone of this attempt to recreate the graphite finish on the reel. And Wayne did a wonderful job of it.
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Lawdy...lawdy..lawdy...that reel is divine.

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