In the above post when I'm referring to lines I mean the line of rods not fly lines. I would not buy any fly line from Orvis but I would buy a rod if it meets the criteria the H1 series spey rods did.
I find Orvis more and more gimmicky except for their rods (mostly)
If you need fly lines Beulah has the best in the industry imo
Some of the best casters I know are really loving some of the new SA lines. I haven't tried any yet, as I'm pretty happy with all my current setups. But I will before long..... just because.