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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 01-30-2018, 07:16 PM Thread Starter
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Hello all from Wisconsin

Hey all,

Long time lurker, first time poster. Recently realized I was at a point in my life were numbers didn't matter, but quality did. I went out and bought a copy of Spey Daze and was hooked from the start. I put down the centerpin and purchased a switch rod, and have been frustrated ever since! I have so many new guy questions it's unreal.
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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 01-31-2018, 08:37 AM
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Welcome to the Speypages !!
Like you, I put the center-pin gear away ... but that was 20 years ago


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post #3 of 10 (permalink) Old 01-31-2018, 09:41 AM
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Hey Brett -

Whereabouts are you located? If you're reasonably close I'd be happy to give you a few pointers on all this to make it make some sense and help you get your flies out past your rod tip.

Got loopage?
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post #4 of 10 (permalink) Old 01-31-2018, 11:24 AM
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Same here. If you want to meet on the Oconto I'll be happy to get you started. I have plenty of rods and lines you can try. I don't consider myself an expert but I've successfully helped others get started.

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This page is great. I am located in Manitowoc. I travel to most tribs on the east side from kewaunee down to the root. I ha e actually never fished the Oconto River. My main issue is finding the right line for my 1107-4 LSi switch. I'm running a 350gr commando head now and never really feel it load up during a cast, maybe only 30% of the time. It's my first 2 hander ever, so I can't compare it to anything else. I have been told a 13fter would be easier to learn on, if this is true I'm totally for it and gonna spend $$$ on a reel (hardy or speyco).
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Hey Dude:

I dig those Wisco rivers. Used to live in MN and loved swinging flies on that coast.

13 footers might be a little easier to learn on, but the OPST head is going to be a little issue, too. My impression of using them on switch rods is that the goal is for them to feel "Light." Constant motion in the cast, as they advocate, was tricky for me for the same reason... not feeling the load and blowing anchors. They are great when they work, but I prefer feeling the rod load up a little more.

Before you swap rods or something, maybe try a skagit switch (I like airflo, but rio is great, too) in the size recommended for the rod. Take is easy (go slow) and you'll feel it load up a little better.

The airflo scout might kick butt on that rod, too. Same length as OPST, but weight recommendations that align with "trad" skagit recs. In my experience, maybe err on the light side with those. Maybe the same as "scandi" weight.

Since you don't need to dredge on those low gradient rivers, you might consider opting for a skagit head right in the middle of your grain window since you won't need to turn over gnarly stuff. T-8 should be fine on 90% of the water you swing. My go to was lightly weighted patterns (or unweighted) and a 5/5 iMow tip. That way you can swing some of that slow, tank water you used to get them on the pin in...

Good luck.

PS: Swing sculpin patterns, or white marabous. Both with lots of flash. You'll get smoked.
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Slint, dude it's like you've watched me fish before. Everything you said about the commando is spot on. I have a full set of t-8 iMow and run 5-5 at least 50% of the time, the other 50 is between 7.5-2.5 and 2.5-7.5. I also almost always throw unweighted. I was really looking at a Rio Skagit Max Short in a 450 or 475 any input?
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Check your private messages.

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Thanks gusg!
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Tough to tell another caster what they'd like, but I think I'd lean towards the 450, especially since you're running light tips and don't need the mass. Cast with a couple feet of overhang and take it easy loading it up. It will go.
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