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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 07-03-2019, 12:21 AM Thread Starter
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Summer trout spey

I live in central Montana and fish the Missouri River for the last part. Trout spey is popular out here for the shoulder and winter seasons. I was wondering what your opinions are about trout Spey in the summer months specifically with soft hackle. I don’t see many anglers with a Spey rod on the river this time of year.
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Well, if you were over here in the summer you would see me "trout speying" all the time. Works great. And contrary to popular opinion, I think streamers work well all year long, just like spey rods! That said, I do use a lot of soft hackles this time of year as well, even hoppers, etc.

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I'm over in Missoula & I spey all year long! I swing mostly muddler variations but caddis, stone flies, salmon flies & hoppers are great wakers
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I canít speak for the Missouri, but I am ĄTrout Speyingď and swinging a fly all year round in my home waters in Bavaria.
I guess trouts as a species are not that different, no matter where they are targets for us.
Most of the time I use all kind of Streamers, while the singlehanded equipped fishermen use the smallest nymphs.
But there are some weeks in autumn, when I have better results with smaller streamers or soft hackles.
This is especially the case in days or after days of more fishing pressure, mostly in days of nice and calm weather, letís say in fishing days also for the less passioned... More people fishing.
In my experience it turns again in bad weather conditions. The indicator in choosing the fly size for me is fishing pressure.
Also done by myself of course, after presenting all my big patterns to the same trout...

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Just my experience with the TH is that I am fishing the other side of the river that a single hander can't reach. I am putting a fly over fish that seldom see a fly and I get nice results. I have a traditional line and a integrated Skagit for different situations. The biggest reason is, its a lot of fun to rip that line off the water and watch it sail through the air.
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I float the Missouri 2-3 times a year & the Meiser with wet flies is always in the boat & does get used in a couple of my favourite spots on the river.

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I live in central Montana and fish the Missouri River for the last part. Trout spey is popular out here for the shoulder and winter seasons. I was wondering what your opinions are about trout Spey in the summer months specifically with soft hackle. I donít see many anglers with a Spey rod on the river this time of year.
I'm the one guy you will see. Lol. I soft hackle fish all summer. Even when the weeds are bad, you can find some relatively clean lanes in spots.

Had my best swinging night ever at Prewett a few Junes ago. Multiple grabs per cast.

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I live in central Montana and fish the Missouri River for the last part. Trout spey is popular out here for the shoulder and winter seasons. I was wondering what your opinions are about trout Spey in the summer months specifically with soft hackle. I don’t see many anglers with a Spey rod on the river this time of year.
I'm the one guy you will see. Lol. I soft hackle fish all summer. Even when the weeds are bad, you can find some relatively clean lanes in spots.

Had my best swinging night ever at Prewett a few Junes ago. Multiple grabs per cast.
Awesome to hear. I thought I was crazy swinging all summer. I’m usually further down in the sheepcreek area swinging. Was out there yesterday in fact. Lots of small rainbows.
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I think a lot of the reason you don't see more of us swinging the mo in the summer is the abundance of bugs and fish rising to them. most of the swing guys I know, myself included, still love to fish a dead drifted dry fly to a rising fish. so many fish rise that its never very far to go to find another steady riser, so i'm usually looking for my next victim (rarely takes long) instead of swinging blind. but still, there are times I just feel like throwing the 2 hander.
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Word, Mike. No question the Mo is an awesome place, maybe one of the best, to fish dry flies. I grew up hunting the spring creeks, so I love that about it. Still I like to hunt heads in between certain swing runs and evenings are the JAM for swinging, and sometimes not the best for dry flies. Caddis pupae are a wonderful thing.

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Awesome to hear. I thought I was crazy swinging all summer. Iím usually further down in the sheepcreek area swinging. Was out there yesterday in fact. Lots of small rainbows.
Just went 4/6 on my lunch break on the lower 'Root! Felt good after 4 days swinging for steel without a sniff.
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I think a lot of the reason you don't see more of us swinging the mo in the summer is the abundance of bugs and fish rising to them. most of the swing guys I know, myself included, still love to fish a dead drifted dry fly to a rising fish. so many fish rise that its never very far to go to find another steady riser, so i'm usually looking for my next victim (rarely takes long) instead of swinging blind. but still, there are times I just feel like throwing the 2 hander.
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Word, Mike. No question the Mo is an awesome place, maybe one of the best, to fish dry flies. I grew up hunting the spring creeks, so I love that about it. Still I like to hunt heads in between certain swing runs and evenings are the JAM for swinging, and sometimes not the best for dry flies. Caddis pupae are a wonderful thing.
I’m with you guys on the headhunting. Do you end up bringing two rods along with you then?
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Iím with you guys on the headhunting. Do you end up bringing two rods along with you then?
I usually either bring my drift boat and solo float, anchoring on fish (and even a little swinging out of the boat, shhh), or walk-and-wade, when it's truly cold out. It's nice to be able to warm up some days and not be confined to the boat. You can do the same thing in a one-person craft and that also opens up floats you can't do with a big boat. Just throw it in where you want. Also brings some "row-across" runs into play.

I usually have a 5wt single set up with a single dry for head hunting and two spey rods. One is a 3wt for soft hackles. The other is a 4wt for streamers and dealing with that Mo wind. While it's effective, I rarely nymph the river. I do it enough guiding and I know how it works. Only time I do is if I'm getting ready for a trip and I want to know what's going on beforehand.
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I’m with you guys on the headhunting. Do you end up bringing two rods along with you then?
I usually either bring my drift boat and solo float, anchoring on fish (and even a little swinging out of the boat, shhh), or walk-and-wade, when it's truly cold out. It's nice to be able to warm up some days and not be confined to the boat. You can do the same thing in a one-person craft and that also opens up floats you can't do with a big boat. Just throw it in where you want. Also brings some "row-across" runs into play.

I usually have a 5wt single set up with a single dry for head hunting and two spey rods. One is a 3wt for soft hackles. The other is a 4wt for streamers and dealing with that Mo wind. While it's effective, I rarely nymph the river. I do it enough guiding and I know how it works. Only time I do is if I'm getting ready for a trip and I want to know what's going on beforehand.
Nice, when I float I typically bring a 5 wt for dries, 6 wt for stripping streamers, and my 3 wt Spey for swinging when I get to some good runs. I do it all but nymph.
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Had a goooood swing sesh last night. Sometimes you catch more than just little ones on the soft hackle. Both fish ate a #12 Red Quill spider-style soft hackle. Just a stripped peacock quill, wire rib, ball of rusty dubbing, and a partridge hackle. The purple thorax p-tail and the October caddis have also been working well.
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