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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 04-30-2018, 04:56 PM Thread Starter
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New Echo Glass Trout Spey on the Way

Just ordered it from Red's. Called just to ask about the package deal....

Yeah, that's how I got into Labradors six dogs ago, Just looking!

Anyway nice deal. 4wt glass trout spey, Ion7-9 reel with backing, 250 gr Opst Commando head, 35lb lazar running and a short sink tip. Ready to go at a nice price.

Just add water

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post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old 04-30-2018, 06:48 PM
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Well done! Awesome rod , especially for the price. I had the 3wt for a number of years and threw a 175gr OPST on it until the Skagit Scout lines came out. Don't be afraid to throw a heavier head then is recommended on it, a 300 gr skagit scout will sing on that rod!
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The reason I don't like the rod is you cannot feel anything.
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post #4 of 15 (permalink) Old 05-02-2018, 01:46 PM Thread Starter
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Steve,

I do not yet have the rod so I cannot judge your comment's validity or whether you are being ironic.

The ad from Tim Rajeff suggests quite different characteristics. I'll see if there is truth in advertising in this case I guess.


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Glass rod has a character of wiggle like crazy. it is so soft and damp the feel from the terminal side. It is hard to feel the "load from the line" because the rod always bend itself. When spey casting, you really have to be conservative and not push hard. otherwise the rod tip will nod deeply. the vibration will collapse the tight loop.

You also might strip line set the hook, the rod does not have enough power to set the hook properly time to time.

I am not discriminating the glass rod but to tell my experience.
I did used echo glass rod and switch rod for a while. They does not work for me but might suit you well.
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Have you tried that rod? What do you think?

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I have the Echo Glass 3wt Switch rod.

It is fun and will cast very smoothly if you slow down and not force the rod. If over powered it will tip bounce and over flex. Gently easy cast and it is fantastic.


It also works nicely with WF lines from RIO Trout LT which in 5wt and 6wt make a nice single hand spey taper,,, more like a Scandi with long gradual front taper. The lightest OPST and RIO Skagit Trout line also are fun with heavy flies and some MOW light tips.


Like or dislike the rod,,, it all depends upon your individual casting style.


I really like the graphite rods in 3wt and 4wt for Trout Spey on larger rivers,,, when I want to experiment with Micro Spey (lines under 200gr) the Echo Glass are my first choice.

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I also purchased the 10'8" #4 rod. Starting out with the 270gr airflo switch float line that I already have. I'm hoping a 6oz reel will balance it nicely.
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I cut my teeth long ago on fiberglass rods and that latent muscle memory has made my first trout speying with the Echo fiberglass combo go smoothly. Add to that a recent reborn again plunge into slower, shorter, modern fiberglass rods that has also helped slow down my casting strokes.

Some here thought there would be a problem with hookups due to the slower action tip and mid section. True, I have missed a few on the swing but not as many as I have prematurely snatched the fly from with faster action rods. IMO i'm seeing more corner of the mouth hook sets with the rod as fish hook themselves turning away.

Stripping streamers also produces positive hook sets.

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Glass rod has a character of wiggle like crazy. it is so soft and damp the feel from the terminal side. It is hard to feel the "load from the line" because the rod always bend itself. When spey casting, you really have to be conservative and not push hard. otherwise the rod tip will nod deeply. the vibration will collapse the tight loop.......
Interesting comments. Over the decades I have cast a few rods where it was extremely difficult to remove the tip vibration. The Sage single hand graphite rods designed for fishing eggs in Alaska were among the worst. (And quickly discontinued.)

The last time I fished fibreglass, it was a Sage hi-modulus fibreglass 8 1/2 foot, 6/7 weight single hand rod. I blew it up on a large foul-hooked male pink salmon. The blank was no longer available.

That rod would be considered as medium-action if compared to contemporary graphite blanks. Terrific action; loved that rod and was very sad to bust it up. When I think of the Duncan-Gerrards I have hooked on that rod.... sigh.

A similar action should make for a very fine switch rod in #3 and #4 weights. Perhaps there is little or no market for a faster glass switch rod as a medium-action graphite rod is far lighter and not much more expensive.

Graphite blanks are cheap compared to the days when glass rods still ruled the market place

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It looks like the whole series discontinued
There's no mention about it in Echo catalog:
Two Hand Rods | Echo Fly Fishing

But, for single hand Echo Glass rod, there's replacement called "Echo River Glass"
River Glass | Echo Fly Fishing
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I have the echo 6wt glass switch, really nice sticks! Not sure what the one poster meant by ‘can’t feel anything’.......I can feel everything!

One tip on casting that one other poster mentioned: slow, slow, slow, and don’t force anything! Also, slightly higher stop on forward stroke as well since it bends down farther when you forward cast. These aren’t rods for casting really far, but they more than make up for it in strength and fish fighting. I had an 18lb King on my 6wt switch last week!! These rods will bend down to the handle and suck the life out of fish!

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Just ordered it from Red's. Called just to ask about the package deal....

Yeah, that's how I got into Labradors six dogs ago, Just looking!

Anyway nice deal. 4wt glass trout spey, Ion7-9 reel with backing, 250 gr Opst Commando head, 35lb lazar running and a short sink tip. Ready to go at a nice price.

Just add water

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Just ordered it from Red's. Called just to ask about the package deal....

Yeah, that's how I got into Labradors six dogs ago, Just looking!

Anyway nice deal. 4wt glass trout spey, Ion7-9 reel with backing, 250 gr Opst Commando head, 35lb lazar running and a short sink tip. Ready to go at a nice price.

Just add water

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I find that I get a better result from using the lightest Lazar line as possible. Ive landed some big fish on 25# and 30#. I do not know what you expect to get into with a 4 wt but the lighter Lazars seem to fly out of the rod tip better. I use 30# Lazar line on my number 1 striped bass outfit (H2 11' 8wt. 475g Commando Head and a 96g 12' tip). It has handled everything I have been hooked up to this year. As long as you have good loop knots you would you would be better off using the 25#.
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I have been VERY happy with my 4 wgt, trout spey Echo glass, but equally or even more pleased with my 7 wgt full-on. I landed a 30-plus lb. king (on the Deschutes of all places while steelhead fishing, check with Chris at Bend Fly Shop if you doubt me) with it. I bought the 8 wgt spey soon thereafter but must admit I am not crazy about it. I am stunned that the rods are discontinued. Soon as I heard I snatched up a 6 wgt spey and look forward to fishing it in a few weeks. The rods are a fantastic deal in my opinion now that they are discontinued, and were excellent value even at full retail. But I understand - different strokes and all that.
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