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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 01-16-2018, 02:18 PM Thread Starter
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Trout Spey/Switch Rod?

I see some occasional references to 5 wt trout spey rods and have myself just had a 4-5 wt 11' custom rod made for me that I originally considered a trout spey.

On reflection, does any 5 wt DH over 10' actually fall into the trout spey category. It is more than adequate for smallmouth, useful on steelhead, and probably overpowers most trout. In short,IMO it's more a switch rod.

If so, where does a SH 9' 5 wt fit in the nomenclature?

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Depending on the fish you are targeting I consider the 5wt switch and speys to be borderline “trout speys” primarily suited for big streamers and big trout like rainbows in Alaska. The ones I have cast are akin to a SH 7wt. I do own a SH 7wt that is reserved for throwing big and heavy streamers to to big bull trout in fast moving water.

What grain weight (skagit Head) do they recommend for this rod you just order? You might find it is more 4 than 5 wt.


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Fireroad,

The blank is an ARE that Steve Godshall, who is very familiar with it, says is more 5 than 4. He set it up with a 250 gr custom 'scandoid" for me. The Ice Age is holding on here so it will be some time until I run it on the river.

Alaska bows run much larger than the run of their lower 48 cousins. I'd be leaving my DH 5 wts at home and moving up a notch if the chance ever arose.

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Hey ddb,
Is it the IM6 or UH12?

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There are trout and trout. The range probably covers more territory than even the classification “Steelhead”. For a lot of people this means nothing bigger than 12-15”. But yes, a 5wt spey is just fine on “medium” trout. Might be better to use grains as a measure. I have a Meiser 13’ that casts a 300gr scandi. A 21” Missouri rainbow put a full bend down to the cork on that rod and took maybe 7 or 8 minute to land in fast water. So yeah, a light 5 wt is a nice weight and can be OK for bigger trout, and not just giant Alaskan trout. Besides, when you start getting very light a little more grains can be helpful in the wind. That rod is, if anything, slightly overtaxed for American Shad I have found, and those run from about 14-20” on average. But those beasties pull about twice as hard per pound as Trout. Maybe 3 times.
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Is it the IM6 or UH12?

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That sounds like it might be the im6 11ft 3/4. Just extrapolating from the lines he made for my 12’ 2/3.

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No, it is the UHM12.

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No, it is the UHM12.

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What is that one like? I’m never played with one. Is it tippy like it was designed as a nymphing rod? Where does it like to bend?

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Botsari,

Next week there is a heat wave coming - into the forties -- and I may get a chance then to rig it up and get some solid insights into how it behaves. Bouncing a rod never tells me what I want to know about it.

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Next week there is a heat wave coming - into the forties -- and I may get a chance then to rig it up and get some solid insights into how it behaves. Bouncing a rod never tells me what I want to know about it.

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OK, would be interested in hearing what you think when you get a chance. While those blanks are more expensive the the im6 ones from ARE, they would still be cheap enough to be tempting if they are nice.

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They do have a rep for being a bit delicate but if you take care not to bend them tip to corks in landing a fish they are reliable enough.

I can't post picts here but PM me your email address and I'll send you some of the finished rod.

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