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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 06-08-2017, 12:34 PM Thread Starter
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commando head set up

How are you guys setting up your commando head. I'm currently running the commando head, 5' floating polyleader and then a 3' mono leader. I was wondering if I should be running a longer leader?
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How are you guys setting up your commando head. I'm currently running the commando head, 5' floating polyleader and then a 3' mono leader. I was wondering if I should be running a longer leader?
Any thoughts.
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I use mow tips on my setup. I feel like the poly leaders are too light for the commando head.

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you're gonna want a longer leader with a floating tip, i'd go at least 6' but probably closer to 9' depending how heavy your flies are. also depends on what weight rod/head we're talking about. polyleaders are fine for light weight single handers 3-6wt, anything heavier i'd go with MOW tips

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This link should help you. Opst also just put a new chart out for single hand skagit only. Instead of using a poly you could just go to a floating leader with these tips.




http://www.speypages.com/speyclave/1...ting-tips.html
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^^ Yes this - new for 2017 - floating OPST tips (5', 7', and 10').

The only time I would use a poly leader with the OPST would be if I am fishing a tiny creek that I had to lay down the part of the head in front of my feet- not to cast - just to flip it out.

For floating work on my 4wt switch rod, I have been using 10' T8 floating tip plus 9' tapered leader for a single fly.

Normally I use 2 flies (hopper - dropper) using a 7.5' tapered leader + tippet for easy casting.

Sometimes to get down lower and for nymphing I use 2 subsurface flies with a New Zealand Strike indicator.
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I recently talked with the OPST guys about the tips they offer. They said that the ones now n offer now are just for 3-6 wt lines; tips for heavier lines are still in R&D!l Also, they said the length of the tips varies to accommodate length of rods -- 5' for shorter rods, on up -- not as line weight factor. I'm just experimenting with them myself.

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I just got a 200gr head for my 9' 5wt. The guy at the shop said I would want to use a tip or cheater between the head and the leader. I tried a 9' taper leader only, and while the head shot out in a tight loop, the leader just fluttered down, so, like full-sized Skagit set-ups, you need a tip of some kind. OPST now has a range of both floating and sinking tips for smaller rods, but here's what I've done:

After the leader-only experiment, I put on a 12' intermediate tip from an old 5wt multi-tip set-up and 4' of leader. Magic. My go-to for Puget Sound sea-runs.

Made a 6' or so cheater out of the back end of an old 5wt floating line, and used that with 10' floating and intr polyleaders. Cast OK, but it was a bit windy that day, so hard to tell for sure. The cheater seemed a bit thin.

Cut a type 6 tip from an old 8wt (single) multi-tip set to about 10', putting this tip well under 100gr. Hucks a decent Skulpzilla nicely.

Cut a floating 5wt tip from 12 to about 9 feet and fished it with a standard 9' tapered trout leader. Super nice. Did a similar thing with an old 8wt tip--also nice, but the lighter tip feels better.

I would have bought their Lazar shooting line, but he shop was out. I spent half as much on Slickshooter--it's working fine.

If I could afford it, I'd buy their various tips, but I have so many random pieces around that I can cut back and use that I can't justify it.

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I'm using 10 feet of T-8 on my 275 grain head, works a treat. I would go mow tips for weight if I wanted floating. A sinking poly would work, would give you that anchor stick you need. In my opinion, a cheater seems to defeat the purpose of the head.
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275 head with 29' T27 sinktip
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I replaced the 5' poly leader with a 10' one and added a 6' tapered leader. It spey casts much better with the added length. I get a bigger D-loop that is not as compact as it was with the 5' leader. Now I Just need to get the sink tip part figured out. I have a 7' sinking poly leader I will see how that casts.
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post #11 of 11 (permalink) Old 06-14-2017, 11:56 AM
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Try Rio MOW tip T8 light floating 10' and a tapered leader - amazing how much the D loop changes and loads the rod.
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