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post #1 of 5 (permalink) Old 12-05-2016, 12:42 PM Thread Starter
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Thumbs up Trout spey rods to cast and test out @ Pasadena Casting Club 4wt Shootout!

Yesterday, at the Pasadena Casting Club in southern California, I was able to "test drive" various trout spey rods and ended up buying one.

The vendors (Manufacturer Reps) that were there:
  • G Loomis
  • Orvis
  • Redington
  • Sage
  • Patagonia
  • Project Healing Waters
  • The Fisherman Spot (dealer)


Truly enjoyed test casting a lot of spey rods - 2wt, 3wt, 4wt from all the reps. Only Orvis did not have a comparable 3 or 4wt spey rod to test out...

The initial entries were: G Loomis Pro 4X 4wt, Sage One 4116, Orvis Clearwater switch 5wt, Redington Hydrogen Spey 4116.

Went back and forth casting different heads - scandi, switch chucker, skagit, OPST short commando heads....
Sage was good, but cost was the highest. G Loomis had the best overall even flex from tip to grip. Orvis did not have a 4wt. Redington had a better backbone to the casting of all kinds of lines...

At the end of the day, it was a battle between $475 G Loomis Pro 4X Switch 4wt 10'6" and $350 Redington Hydrogen 4wt 11'6".

Ended up getting the:
REDINGTON Hydrogen Spey 4116-4

Plus the retailer was offering 10% off so that sealed the deal.

Now I am getting an OPST Commando 225gr Commando head for casting in tight quarters.
The entire line of trout spey are very versatile and made for use in brushy, high bank, trees and obstructions where single handers will have a tough time.
I loved the OPST short head that allowed me to cast very low to the waters perry poke, single spey, and snap T....
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Redington vs. Sage??

Would you comment on the difference between the Hydrogen and the Sage One 4116, particularly loading and casting?
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The differences between the Redington and Sage was the lines they were lined with.

The Sage had the Rio Switch chucker integrated line and the Redington had the OPST head and later changed to the Rio Switch chucker - tested with both lines.

Both rods have a fast action which helps for skagit casting. The Redington cast a lot better with the OPST head over the Switch chucker line because of the quick casts which I liked. I would think the Sage would cast the same as the OPST lined head but the cost was $200 more which made it less desirable...

The Switch chucker line (4wt) took some time getting used to on both rods - casting took more effort to get the D loop to form. I did not like the Switch chucker line for either of the rods. I think they are great for heavier rods - I have a 7wt switch rod (Chromer) and the switch chucker lined with a 8wt Switch chucker works great for larger rivers without obstructions.

For what I plan on using for brown trout - small river - brushy - high banks - lots of rock lined sides helps having a small D loop, loop in front instead of side/behind, and using perry poke type casting for streamer & swinging for trout is what I am targeting...
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Slower rods actually help skagit casting and loading up the rod fully.

Did you happen to cast the Loomis with a Commando head on it?
I have cast all of these brands of rods and several others and just find it weird the loomis wouldn't of felt better with a commando head than the redington. One thing I've noticed with all the redington rods is that there "backbone" is really just a lack of flex or action in the lower half of their rods kind of just feel like a stick when casting and that's the reason they cast better with heavy loaded lines.

Anyways welcome to the troutspey world! and you'll soon find out just how much of a river you can fish with the commando head!
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Slower rods actually help skagit casting and loading up the rod fully.

Did you happen to cast the Loomis with a Commando head on it?
I have cast all of these brands of rods and several others and just find it weird the loomis wouldn't of felt better with a commando head than the redington. One thing I've noticed with all the redington rods is that there "backbone" is really just a lack of flex or action in the lower half of their rods kind of just feel like a stick when casting and that's the reason they cast better with heavy loaded lines.

Anyways welcome to the troutspey world! and you'll soon find out just how much of a river you can fish with the commando head!
Yes I did test the G Loomis Pro 4X switch rod with the OPST Commando head and it flexes beautifully and casts a precision loop. I did love the Pro 4X rod as G Loomis rep had correctly lined the trout spey rod with a 225gr OPST head and 10' T8 MOW tip with a short leader.

As I stated in my first post, the G Loomis and Redington were the ones on the my finalist list.

I chose the Redington because of the price point - had I wanted to spend another $130 on my first trout spey rod, I would have preferred the G Loomis.
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