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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 06-04-2016, 02:10 PM Thread Starter
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Micro spey - not only for big water

Mixed impression on first usages of Winston III TH-MS
First of all , I acquired Winston micro spey rod for fishing in medium size river Dunajec, which is wide enough and good place to spey cast.
Here are pictures of typical Dunajec water:
http://www.osdunajec.pl/index.php?lang=en

But recently I found it very successfull on small river Bialka in Southern Poland, where I live. I came with the formula, which gives me consistent brown trout hookups in my favorite spots.

Here is my setup
-Winston TH-MS 4wt 11'
-OPST Commando Skagit 270 grain
-OPST Lazar running line
-3x 9' fluorocarbon leader + piece of tippet (total 10'-11')
-2"-2.5" zonker/bunny leech in natural colors (brown, olive, black) with small tungsten cone

I tried 3-7 ips sinking polyleaders, but I found no real advantage in hookup rates in summer conditions. Even in deeper holes, trout will raise to the fly regardless of the depth of swing, if it founds it attractive.

also, I tried Airflo Scandi compact 300 grain on this rod, which also good match

My favorite places are fast riffles with choppy water in the head of the pool, where stream speed gradually slows down.
Presentation is quite straightforward - I cast to the opposite bank, do 2-3 quick strips and then let it swing. Rod length and line setup allows to do it with very little wading or without it, which is key to success. Fish is very spooky there. When fly is about to leave holding water to the nearest bank, I usually speed it up. This often triggers trout attack, very aggressive. Trout is very strong in this river, because of it's powerful current, and even small fish pulls like a tractor!

Low water is big obstacle there. Pools are gin-clear, and careful approach is required. Fishing gets much better after rains, when water gets higher and a little bit colored. Bialka is the only river I know in this area, where high water has positive effect on fishing. On most other rivers, it is the opposite. On summer sunny days, I prefer to fish early hours 5AM-8AM.

Also, I found that Winston micro-spey occasionally could be used for euro-nymphing as well - it is long enough, well balanced and light in hand. Just add Czech/French leader with indicator to the end. It is more "switch" than some rods officially called switches. If I would go hiking/camping to some remote area, where only one rod is allowed due to weight restriction, I'd take this one.

Spey fishing for trout is largely unknown in Poland. Most people do euro nymphing (Czech/Polish style), or dry fly upstream.
So I'm probably the only person in the area practicing that kind of thing. It's not about catching big numbers - it is fun and pleasure from each aspect of the process.
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Nice pictures and writing. Looks like a fun place to fish.
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Great to see this technique being used in Poland! Nymphing can be productive but swinging is way more fun... Nice fish there.

I was out checking my Micro Spey setup yesterday (4wt St Croix single hand converted to double hand with the addition of the bottom handle). I use 14' to 15' Spey rods most of the time and find the transition to micro Spey a bit difficult due to the longer stroke I use with the big rods. As a result I like to use a Commando 200 with a 15' tip with my micro spey. I usually use a Rio intermediate replacement tip . I have tried as low as 4 wt but prefer 7wt tips.

My current Summer favorite setup is an old 12'6" Rainshadow 6wt Spey with a Nextcast 35. Not exactly micro Spey but an easier transition from a 15' 10wt Spey rod.

After Winter fishing with a longer rods I have to work on getting my short stroke working well again.

Light weight double hand rods are a blast!

Thanks for your post.
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That river looks perfect in every way
That one trout has lots of girth
Nice to have such a beautiful river with chunky trout for that Winston
Heard a airflo skagit switch rocks on that rod from guy who fishes that same scandi line on rod the lightest one they make think it's 270
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My favorite streamers for trout. these zonkers are deadly
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Wonderful thread

Great pictures and write up. Thank you for sharing!!

Zonkers are very productive for sure. Just wait until you try some clousers!!

If you want pm me your address, I'll send you some flies that will yield great results

My treat ~ please continue sharing your experiences and great pictures!
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Unhappy Siiiigh,,,,,,, I wish the Rogue River here in So. Oregon had resident trout.

Only one's we get are down stream migrents so 6-8 inches is about as big as they get before blasting off to the Pacific Ocean.




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Great right up I enjoy reading about fishing in other areas. Your comment about being the only person that Spey fishes in your area rings true. In my area there are very few people who fly fish. I'm a member of a local fly club but it's based out of a city an hour away, I know how you feel. I've had people watch me say what is he doing?

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Some more catches on micro spey. Fish from 8" to 16". Mostly brown zonkers. Now with Airflo scandi compact 300 gr
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