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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 05-05-2016, 11:20 AM Thread Starter
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The Wet Fly - Bumble, Golden Olive

This is the fly that rekindled my interest in swinging wet flies. My dear friend Sean Mcmanaman of Ireland gifted me a box of wet flies ten or so years ago. The Bumble must be one of his favorites because the box was full of them. I have fished the Claret, Golden Olive and Hot-orange Bumbles with much success. The Golden Olive Bumble is a go-to during a caddis hatch. The Jay feather is an easy find, but on the pricey side. You could sub with dyed guinea if needs be. Something about the blue….



Bumble, Golden Olive
Hook: 12-16 wet fly
Thread: Brown
Tail: G.P. crest
Body: Golden olive seal’s fur or sub
Body Hackle: Two cock hackles, matched in size: golden olive and dark ginger
Rib: oval tinsel gold
Head Hackle: Blue Jay

Start the tying thread just behind the eye of the hook. Strip a clump of Jay from the feather. Secure the jay, tip forward around the hook shank.



Wrap the tying thread reward trapping the crest feather and the ribbing as you go.



Secure in the two body hackles and touch dub a small amount of seal to the tying thread. Remember it is always easier to add dubbing, than it is to take away.



Dub the body and bring the rib forward making five open turns.



Palmer the body hackles forward and secure. Clip the tag end of the stems.



Fold back the jay and take a few firm securing wraps in front. The Jay should prop right up.



Whip finish and cement.

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My wet fly box is out in the truck, staging for tonight. When I get a chance I will post a photo of the Claret and Hot-orange Bumble. Thanks for looking, good tying and better fishing.

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Outstanding I am now cleaning off my computer screen from trying to bite that fly, you mentioned Claret my favorite color for trout..... Any changes in materials except for body???

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Claret Bumble

Hook: 8-14
Thread: Black
Tail: Slim bunch of G.P. tippet
Body: Dark Claret seal
Body Hackle: Two matched cock hackles, claret and black
Rib: Gold oval tinsel
Head Hackle: Blue Jay

I will post one up asap

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Put a few in an envelope



Thanks Marty really appreciate it


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Claret Bumble

Hook: 8-14
Thread: Black
Tail: Slim bunch of G.P. tippet
Body: Dark Claret seal
Body Hackle: Two matched cock hackles, claret and black
Rib: Gold oval tinsel
Head Hackle: Blue Jay

I will post one up asap

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Bumble

Wow another great little tie made easy, love the reverse tie with the Blue Jay, will be hard to source in NZ but I think our native Pukeko will suffice even though it will a touch darker in tone.
Looking forward to more!
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It looks nice but you really oughta try doing it the proper way by palmering the hackle down the fly then coming back up thru the hackle with the wire rib to secure. I've found that it looks exactly the same, strengthens the hackle and makes the fly a quicker tie not to mention is just plain the proper traditional way to do it. Same for the dabblers.
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Says the explanation below is the proper way

I am thinking proper is a relative term.. A fly that takes minimal amount of time to tie and is going to get chewed to pieces all day long, really is a mute point

Not a four day classic Atlantic salmon tie

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It looks nice but you really oughta try doing it the proper way by palmering the hackle down the fly then coming back up thru the hackle with the wire rib to secure. I've found that it looks exactly the same, strengthens the hackle and makes the fly a quicker tie not to mention is just plain the proper traditional way to do it. Same for the dabblers.

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Lovely fly and I believe I will tie some up for swinging this year. Looks very fishy to me.

Thanks a lot for posting this one.
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Says the explanation below is the proper way

I am thinking proper is a relative term.. A fly that takes minimal amount of time to tie and is going to get chewed to pieces all day long, really is a mute point

Not a four day classic Atlantic salmon tie

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Tie it however you like - Im not disparaging. However, reinforcing rib thru the fly is the traditional way.

It looks perfectly fine as tied here and will make no difference to the fish in the long run.

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I wish my missus had a mute point.

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Mike, it all depends on how far back you go as to what is traditional. Traditionally the hackle followed the oval rib, being the oval ribbing would protect the hackles stem. The “Spey” fly introduced multiple ribs, with a reversed rib to lock down the hackle. I could be wrong, but my thinking is, this technics of locking the hackle with the tinsel or wire progressed from the Spey style. I tie using both methods. The only issue with using the rib to lock the hackle is retrieving the trapped hackles. I use velcro, but it pulls too much of the seal fur out during the process. The thought of tying a Bumble in hand makes me wonder which style would be easier. Good question.

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Mike, it all depends on how far back you go as to what is traditional. Traditionally the hackle followed the oval rib, being the oval ribbing would protect the hackles stem. The “Spey” fly introduced multiple ribs, with a reversed rib to lock down the hackle. I could be wrong, but my thinking is, this technics of locking the hackle with the tinsel or wire progressed from the Spey style. I tie using both methods. The only issue with using the rib to lock the hackle is retrieving the trapped hackles. I use velcro, but it pulls too much of the seal fur out during the process. The thought of tying a Bumble in hand makes me wonder which style would be easier. Good question.
It doesnt bother me one way or the other. I do think the 'traditional' for these loch/lough-style flies like the dabblers and bumbles is rib counter-wrapped.

If only we could go back in time to 16th/17th century Derbyshire, England where the bumble style was created to ask the creators. This oughta be the first thing done once time travel is invented and Im going to start an online petition on one of the petition websites to see that it is.

Nice tie regardless of what 'should' be done, Marty.
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