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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 03-25-2016, 03:18 AM Thread Starter
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OPST for ACR 3110-4 3 wt?

I fished with a Redington prospector last fall 4wt throwing streamers mostly and having a blast. I decided to upgrade the rod and after discussions ended up with the ACR JHC 3110-4 from the deschutes angler. They hooked me up with a rio Scandi short (300 gr) which casts nicely enough but doesn't lift the smaller streamers as well. (Likely due more to my poor skill set than the line)

I have the OPST commando 350 on my deer creek switch and love it. I have the skagit max short (325 g) on the prospector and that seems to work well enough. I'm interested in putting a OPST head on the ACR potentially but was interested in any feedback that may be out there fishing this head for trout and throwing it on a rod this light.

I'm thinking to just throw the prospector for all streamers but the ACR is such a treat I want to expand my options if possible. Plus at this point in my journey the skagit casting is much more manageable.

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post #2 of 14 (permalink) Old 03-28-2016, 02:14 AM
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Scot, I've been using an OPST 150 gr on this same rod for several months. It seems to turn over light tips and 3-4" weighted streamers well. I'm sure it'll handle a 175 gr just fine also. It came with a 220 gr Scandi head. That was fine but the OPST is much better in tight quarters and with tips vs polys.
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Thanks for the reply! 150 sounds really light to me but I am still new to these heads? Do you have a tip on as well? I actually heard back from the guys at OPST and they suggested a 200g. I had picked up a 175 so I may cast it a bit to see how it goes and get the 200 if I don't like it.

How do you like the rod? I was out for a bit on Saturday swinging some wet flies but no bueno.
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Nice looking stick you have there, would be pure joy with 18-20" fish!
OPST are spot on with there recommendations but I suspect there will always be a grain window influenced by many factors. I asked for a match for my ACR 1175 and was told 300gr. Well yesterday I thought I would try their 250gr ( 225 and 250 which I have for SH rods) with 10' type 3 versi leader. It felt way to light rigging it up, but cast beautifully with a nice crisp off the tip cast from the 1175 on the river, even managed a nice little brown from the town water I was swinging. Gary's rods are a nice smooth casting tools and I imagine yours is no different so if your happy with the lighter gr weight not much will be achieved unless bigger tips are required to be cast.
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Thanks AJS - it is a superb little rod. I love it. Only cast it so far with the scandi with a wet fly and it is a lot of fun. Appreciate the advice. I have a 175 g so maybe I should give it a whirl before grabbing the 200. I have the prospector if I need a bigger tip but after throwing this one a bit it will be hard to pull myself away if I can make a medium streamer with some T8/10 work.
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Yes 150 is a bit light. It's my personal preference. It still turns over versi leaders and 10' t-8 fine. I'd love to hear a report when you get it setup.


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Acr 1103-4

I find that the Rio 250 -275 short skagit 17' body works for most people. They are able to throw bigger flies and heavier tips with ease.
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quick question off topic scot you said you had the the opst 350 on your deer creek, curious what line size the rod is? thanks

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Gary - thanks! Do you know anyone who throws the OPST on this rod? I have that skagit short on my #4 Prospector and find it works well so maybe I should just do that. I really liked the OPST though... Either way thank you for an amazing rod. Couldn't pull the trigger on the Winston after looking at yours.

Speydee6'd - it is the 7wt deer creek. My first two handed rod and it has served me well.
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Scot, I think 350 OPST might be more than that rod likes. You could try it but I think it would take the spunk out of that rod. You would probably have to slow your stroke down to get it handle that much weight.
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Scot, I think 350 OPST might be more than that rod likes. You could try it but I think it would take the spunk out of that rod. You would probably have to slow your stroke down to get it handle that much weight.
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Whoops Gary! I think I may have been unclear. The 350 g was for the 7wt Deer Creek rod. I was recommended the 200 g for the 3 wt (your rod) - have the 175 that I tried on it and will probably get the 200 instead. Appreciate the feedback. I agree - 350 would ruin the rod.

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Quick update. Went with the 200 g after casting the 175 g and it is great for me. I could see dropping to the 175 g down the road if/when I become a better caster but the extra 25 g seemed to make a difference in turning over the heavier flies. Threw it last Saturday primarily swinging the wet fly on a poly leader but also tried a nymph rig and T 8 with a heavy streamer and all worked well. The rod was a blast even with the smaller fish I was catching but handled the bigger whitefish w/o an issue. Can't wait to throw salmon-fly patterns with this...
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Checked the head I was casting on the 1175 it was the 225gr! Scott you will use both lines for different flows/depths as I have found, put a 12' versi leader on the 175gr head and your have a powerful scandi
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Go with 75 grns lighter then the current skagit short head you are using. This is what OPST is using as a starting point and from what I have seen it is on point.
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