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post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old 01-14-2016, 06:59 AM Thread Starter
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Winston MS 4wt

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Just wondering if anyone has hands on experience with the 4wt Winston micro spey, if so line choices? how did you find the action?
Is it true to the name? Or just another switch rod, looking at a present for my 40th this year, my girlfriend is at least bless her, I would be looking to line it with an OPST commando head at 250gr, thats what I currently use on my 5wt cpx which has pretty much the same grain window.
Any advice is appreciated in advance.
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I don't with Winston but I've handled the new T&T 11'6 3w&4w and they are schaweeeeeet!!

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I'll post some pics Tomorrow
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I just got that exact rod for my 51st! After talking with Adam at Winston, I went with the OPST Commando head at 225 grain. The 250 might be a bit much, but if you already have it, give it a whirl. I use this for chucking streamers. For nymphing, I am using RIO Indicator 2 line at a 6wt (recommended by several pro sources)....easy pick up. Have fun!
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For nymphing, I am using RIO Indicator 2 line at a 6wt (recommended by several pro sources)....easy pick up. Have fun!
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I picked up a 4wt MS last summer and I absolutely love it. Having quite a few rods laying around, I can say that it leans more toward spey than switch. I like slow actions in general but this one is fast and has feel. I have lined it with a 4wt Speydicator a couple times - but that ain't what it was made for. My SR excels at bobbers.

I have also tossed a DT7, an intergrated Airflo Switch Float in 240gr (passable, but a 270gr would be money IMO), and a 250gr Rio Trout Max. The 250gr has been pretty sweet with light and medium MOWs. If I were to pick up a Commando it'd be the 250gr. Side note: I'll hafta slap a 225gr Rio Trout Max and see what that does...

I just saw the price is inching up on those -

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Thanks for the replies, I have both the 250 and 225 commando head so I can try both,
As its a birthday my g/f wants it custom made so ill be buying a blank and giving it to a mate to build, think I like the original Winston reel seat though.
Cheers again for your thoughts and experience all.
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For nymphing, I am using RIO Indicator 2 line at a 6wt (recommended by several pro sources)....easy pick up. Have fun!
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How could you embrace such irreverence!

I only swing flies on double hand rods...single handing a nymph on a switch or micro spey doesnt tickle my bollocks at all, but each to their own
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I only swing flies on double hand rods...single handing a nymph on a switch or micro spey doesnt tickle my bollocks at all, but each to their own
Well said my good man

Have you ever considered checking out the junior black Marlin off of Cairns? I bet that would tickle your bollocks

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I only swing flies on double hand rods...single handing a nymph on a switch or micro spey doesnt tickle my bollocks at all, but each to their own
Well said my good man

Have you ever considered checking out the junior black Marlin off of Cairns? I bet that would tickle your bollocks

I go well, thanks for asking!

I have, we get the small ones just north of Brisbane in early summer as they follow the bait schools south to Hervey Bay, but to be honest id rather leave them alone, a lot get sharked, a lot sink dead after giving there all in the fight, some folk up there are really good at handling these fish and have a good release rate, some couldn't care less tho, its all for the glory shot etc....never quite understood that way of thinking so ill prob leave them be, perhaps have an incidental shot when im on the flats looking for other species
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You are most welcome and I'm glad you are well

Sucks about the Marlin, forgive my ignorance. I didn't know that. I understand there are king mackerel in that area and giant trevally?

I can't wait to make my way down there.

If you're so inclined, I'd be enormously grateful and appreciative to read your experience in that gorgeous corner of the wold. The weather, people, fishing, mood, culture

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Well said my good man

Have you ever considered checking out the junior black Marlin off of Cairns? I bet that would tickle your bollocks

I go well, thanks for asking!

I have, we get the small ones just north of Brisbane in early summer as they follow the bait schools south to Hervey Bay, but to be honest id rather leave them alone, a lot get sharked, a lot sink dead after giving there all in the fight, some folk up there are really good at handling these fish and have a good release rate, some couldn't care less tho, its all for the glory shot etc....never quite understood that way of thinking so ill prob leave them be, perhaps have an incidental shot when im on the flats looking for other species
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If that doesn't make you want the W. nothing will

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Well said my good man

Have you ever considered checking out the junior black Marlin off of Cairns? I bet that would tickle your bollocks

I go well, thanks for asking!

I have, we get the small ones just north of Brisbane in early summer as they follow the bait schools south to Hervey Bay, but to be honest id rather leave them alone, a lot get sharked, a lot sink dead after giving there all in the fight, some folk up there are really good at handling these fish and have a good release rate, some couldn't care less tho, its all for the glory shot etc....never quite understood that way of thinking so ill prob leave them be, perhaps have an incidental shot when im on the flats looking for other species
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Interesting question.
Generally speaking Oz is a nice place, it haa its share of weirdo's etc but pretty much most people will say g'day if you pass each other.
Culture is as varied as most modern countries, plenty of good restaurants etc around the cities, closer you go to the coasts the more laid back it gets, same if you head into northern qld or the northern Territory, plenty of blue singlets up that way.
Weather is varied, Tasmania in the south can be four seasons in a day and can produce bitterly cold winters.
Northern qld etc is tropics, why Brisbane is good, sub tropics, not to hot (but can get pretty sweaty in peak summer) and not to cold in winter, spring and autumn being the pick of seasons for me.
Fishing is very varied to, fresh water (introduced) trout and native species of freshwater cod and bass in the cooler areas, Tailor (bluefish) and varied reef type fish down south, North you get jungle perch, sooty grunter, Saratoga, bass, barramundi in the freshwater rivers and lakes, mangrove jack (red snapper) barramundi, threadfin salmon, jew fish, cod so on so on on the salt riverz, blue water, we get a bunch of different tuna including the southern bluefin and yellowfin, Spanish mackeral, wahoo, spotty and school makeral to list a few of the pelagics, various Deepwater 'hoodlum' species like amberjack, kingfish etc, all the reef fish you could want to, giant trevally, golden trevally (flats) silver trevally (down south) diamond trevally so on so on, black and Blue Marlin, sail fish on the west.
Plenty of variety to say the least.
Sharks, crocodiles, lots of snakes (I hate snakes) some pretty nasty spiders and various other things you just have to accept are here or you would never leave the house.
Everyone should see Australia (and NZ) just like I think everyone should see the United states and Canada and BC
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Adding, we all pretty much live by the coast, deserts and nothingness in the middle, except the big rock if that floats your boat.
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My buddy has the 4wt and has tried the Airflo Switch Streamer in 4wt and 4.5 and feels the rod really sings with the 4.5. Considering that Tom Larimer designed (and fishes) both the rod and the line I would go there next if the OPST does work out. I've fished the Airflo Switch Float and while it is the better dry fly line the Streamer version is much more useful all around.
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I thought long and hard about the Winston but ultimately went with a Meiser 11 ft 4 weight S Rod. It is a joy to cast and I prefer the Wulff Ambush 6 weight on it because I can strip the fly in all the way to the leader when I'm fishing lakes. You can really bomb out a cast from a peninsula in a lake with a single Spey cast. These rods make trout fishing even more fun! BTW, Tom Larimer now works for GLoomis, but I love his interviews when he was associated with Winston.

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