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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-13-2016, 03:46 PM Thread Starter
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Leader setup for swing small streamers

Curious as to what folks are using on their trout switch and speys to swing small streamers for trout. I have been using a 10ft airflo trout poly leader on my 3wt switch and 4wt spey to swing #8 sculpzillas, but the turnover results are unimpressive. Was thinking about trying the 5ft polyleaders but concerned about blowing my anchor (I primarily fish sustained anchor skagit casts).
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If I am throwing anything weighted at all, I am throwing a skagit head and a light mow tip with 3ish feet of 10 lb maxima. This has worked well for me.
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If I am throwing anything weighted at all, I am throwing a skagit head and a light mow tip with 3ish feet of 10 lb maxima. This has worked well for me.
I've been throwing integrated lines on both my rods (Airflo Switch Float) but will be switching to some type of super compact skagit like the OPST (until Airflo comes out with lighter weight compact skagits). I'll prolly stick with polyleaders as most of the water I fish is pretty thin. Tossing something like a light mow or T7 would mean donating lots of streamers to the river gods...
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+1 what Jjp said. Those airflo trout polys are pretty wimpy with streamers. The light & medium MOWs will turn them over great.

If I'm trying to get a jigged presentation (crawdad) with a heavy fly I'll have a 10'ish furled leader of 20lb Maxima with a few feet of 8-10lb Maxima tippet. I stumbled across it on the Deneki site a couple years ago and with some practice you can make a pretty stiff mono leader.

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I think you could get away with a floating tip on a skagit if the water is that skinny. I have a 275 OPST head for my 4 weight echo TR and while it works fine, I do not love it. I much prefer a skagit compact with a tip if I am going to be swinging anything weighted. That being said I do love the OPST head on my single hand 7 weight. It is a lot of fun to fish and very effective for swing/stripping streamers.
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Will the light opst heads turnover a 10' salmon/steelhead poly say fast sinking? I can turnover moderately sized flies on those 24lb polys, up to 4-5" lightly dressed flies with med dumbbell eyes seems ok for me.
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Will the light opst heads turnover a 10' salmon/steelhead poly say fast sinking? I can turnover moderately sized flies on those 24lb polys, up to 4-5" lightly dressed flies with med dumbbell eyes seems ok for me.
Yes they will, no problem.
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For me a Rio Short Scandi body or an Ambush integrated using Rio 10' tips or Airflo 10' trout sinking poly's with 4-5' of tippet. My streamers are not huge, cone head buggers somewhere in the 15gns or <.
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To me the core strength of a poly is critical to turnover capacity. If you can find them stocked Airflo offers "Sea Trout / Steelhead" versions in 8' length with the 24 pound core

I typically run 7' - 10' level T-10 tip (23' 320gr head) if I the water is conducive.. polys if not.
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I like the idea of the steelhead polyleader (I have a few of those) or the Deneki twisted leader. I think something around 7.5 ft with 2 feet of tippet would be perfect for small (but weight) sculpin patterns.
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A #8 scuplzilla on a 3-4wt rod? you are under-gunned
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A #8 scuplzilla on a 3-4wt rod? you are under-gunned
Not at all, I tie my sculpzillas to be able to swing them with a SH 5wt. They are about as big as I would throw on the Echo glass 3wt, but well within the range on the Dec Hogan 4119. That thing is pretty much a 5wt and will jack anything you would want to swing in front of a trout.
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A #8 scuplzilla on a 3-4wt rod? you are under-gunned

If it's a switch or Spey not even close. Those rods with the right heads will turn over a lot. A 4wt single handed rod with a short heavy head would launch a #8 sculpzilla.
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