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ARE 9'10" 4 weight sage green

So I just ordered one, people have mentioned it being a good little trout switch so I had to get one. I am curious what lines are people using with the rod? I assume it was rated as a 4 weight single hand rod, just looking to see where the spey equivalent would be roughly.
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txtrout has built this along with the ARE 2/3 and 3/4 if I recall correctly. Don't quote me on this, but I think he suggested a 180gr scandi. I'm sure he'll post his thoughts. I have the same blank which is being made into a czech nymphing rod, it is a very nice blank for the price.
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Steve Godshall told me he'd built several for customers so I assume he'd be a great source for lining that rod.
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Steve Godshall told me he'd built several for customers so I assume he'd be a great source for lining that rod.
Very few rods out there that Steve doesn't have 'The Spec's' so having him build a 'proper line' should be 'easy-peesie.' Won't cost you a penny more than something off the shelf. That said, lines can be pretty specific as to how/where you intend to fish so a 'head system' is a good idea. Same rod, same shooting line, and a selection of heads.

With an exception (rare for me to use the rod) the rest of my 'collection' all have his lines.




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Here are my thoughts on this rod. I think it is closer to a 5/6wt single handed rod. In the two handed scale, I'd call it a 2wt two hander

Steve specs it from 200-230 grains. I like it 175-210. Lines used: 180grn 20ft scandi, 175grn commando, 200grn commando and a 210 24ft scandi. It handles them all well, in addition to a Rio Grand 5wt SH line for nymphing. The rod has very good tip strength, it is not tippy like a scandi rod might be.

It's a fun little rod,

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I emailed ARE in regarding this rod. John told me it would take 175-225. I went ahead and ordered one with a handle kit. My question is how long should it take once you pay through pay pal to get an email saying the order has shipped?

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I emailed ARE in regarding this rod. John told me it would take 175-225. I went ahead and ordered one with a handle kit. My question is how long should it take once you pay through pay pal to get an email saying the order has shipped?
A few days for me.

BTW, I've read either here or on other boards that the cork handles from ARE leave a bit to be desired.
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Thanks guys, I think Ill talk to steve G. then, Ill want something that can swing soft hackles and bh woolly buggs and delicate enough to present dries. Something like a wulff TT then likely.

I've also heard less then stellar reviews of the cork, I always turn my own, it's my favourite part of the rod building process.
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txtrout- did you have any preference between the 175 and 200 grn commando or too close to tell?
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I have fished this rod a lot. I have used a variety of lines and like the 200 gr. Commando best. The 175 commando is good but the heavier line seems to suit me better. 10 foot poly leaders. I have also liked a 20 foot head I made from a DT 10 salmon line with a 10-12 foot maxima leader.
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Dan,

Bud is spot on.

However, I actually preferred the 175 commando. The difference is I use a 7ft fast sink poly leader or a 10ft int/floating vs. Bud with a 200 and 10ft sinking poly. My casting cycle is also a bit faster than Buds. The rod works with either set up well. The 200 pushes larger flies when needed easier. I will pick up a Rio Trout 200 for it (Also allows use on my 12ft 3wt with same line)

Why don't you look at an Ambush 4wt or 5wt or get Steve to make you an integrated Scandiod for it to split the difference for your use? I'm not a huge fan of the 24ft 210 grn Scandi that I have on it. However, it was very windy and I had a sinking poly on it when I was using it. I found the head a bit long for my likes that morning but like the head on another rod. I actually think that the rod is a bit more of a SAC type rod than a Scandi taper. I would love to find a 12ft 4/5wt with the exact same flex profile. It has very good tip strength.

I really think that I would prefer an integrated line for this rod over a head system. It might keep me from trying to fish it too big and heavy and keep me from tryingto cast too far...

I really put it together to fish size 8 and smaller soft hackles within 45ft. However with the Commando heads I can ( and so can Bud) cast a six 6 bead head wooly bugger around 70ft. Not that I need to or that it is that pretty...
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My casts are pretty.
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I was talking about mine.
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awesome stuff.

Yeah I'm thinking a shortened, slightly more powerful scandi type of line for my needs... definately also like the idea of using an integrated line.

How many stripping guides did you put on it? And how did you get the guide spacing figured out?

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