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2 handed trout "technique"

Hey guys, just a little confused here and was wondering if you are strictly swinging for trout or are you dead drifting dry flies as you would with a single handed rod.
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I use my little two hander for swinging and nymphing, but I find a single hander is a much better tool for dead drifting dries. I usually carry both types of rods when there is chance of a hatch and rising fish.

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I find if I'm carrying my 2 hand rod I'm swinging.

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use my 2H for swinging

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I find if I'm carrying my 2 hand rod I'm swinging.
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I do not nymph (wife does, and she use a french leader) and when I dry fly, I am using a single hand rod - bamboo, fibreglass or slow graphite.
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occasionally i might take a few steps right after the cast or mend with big dries that i will eventually skate, strip or chug. that few seconds of drift sometimes gets a lot of love.

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Swing, dead drift downstream, high stick upstream dead drift, Euro nymph, dry fly on long leader/tippet.

All work fine with the new Trout Spey rods and lines.

Dry fly with Scandi heads and long leader/tippet -- 18'-20' total.
Sometimes downstream presentation is easier until you get comfortable with the longer light rods.

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I use my 5/6 switch for just about everything except very small dries and nymphs, Swing a lot, strip streamers as well from boat, skating mice and casting in the surf at the beach.... Great rod has really pushed out the use of many of my other ones.
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I've been playing around with a DT for all around use and find it an excellent tool for dead drifting hoppers and other dries; lot's of mending capability. Mostly use snake rolls for high floating flies but cast overhead when it's handy. I think the only limit is our imaginations. Don't use a single hander much anymore. My opinion may change in the future but that's where I'm at right now.
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Had Steve Godshall build me a 12'6" 2/3 weight, line to match.

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I've been playing around with a DT for all around use and find it an excellent tool for dead drifting hoppers and other dries; lot's of mending capability. Mostly use snake rolls for high floating flies but cast overhead when it's handy. I think the only limit is our imaginations. Don't use a single hander much anymore. My opinion may change in the future but that's where I'm at right now.
I agree, I'm loving the DT this year on my long rods. It's been amazing just how well it will punches wind.

The rods are definitely versatile and have opened up a bunch of techniques. I think lines have played just as big a part in all of it. A guy can have one rod, and 3-4 lines, and do just about anything under the sun.

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In experience, two handed rods work well for just about anything. Regularly use a 11' #6 switch rod that has handled swinging via 360gr skagit + sink tip, bombed dry fly rigs via Airflo's Exceed DT8 for nymphs/dries. A bit of a biased opinion as all of my rods are two handers at the point in time, personally I just enjoy them more and like the option of using the bottom handle if/when needed.
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DT on Glass

Having recently completed my CTS quartz glass DH 1136 project and have cast various lines from 330 Rage to a 450 skagit switch, I must say the lighter weights are so buttery smooth to cast when the wind is lighter, snake rolls
executed so easy! So where am I going with this, WELL with spring upon us down this way, looking at a DT line to fish through the season on dries and small skaters any thoughts on the 406 flylines in DT? Looking at 8wt.
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Standard DT8 weights about 210gr for first 30ft and next 30ft is only about 5% to 12% heavier. IMO the maximum length of line head should not be longer what you can comfortably cast and usually it is the back cast which limits the head length. After that it is possible to shoot line and a WF line shoots better than a DT line. Current Spey lines also have better profiles which cast better and land softer than a DT.

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Having recently completed my CTS quartz glass DH 1136 project and have cast various lines from 330 Rage to a 450 skagit switch, I must say the lighter weights are so buttery smooth to cast when the wind is lighter, snake rolls
executed so easy! So where am I going with this, WELL with spring upon us down this way, looking at a DT line to fish through the season on dries and small skaters any thoughts on the 406 flylines in DT? Looking at 8wt.
The 8wt DT will do that set up nicely. A WF line is great for overhand style casting, although have never been a fan of its ability to mend line. In experience, a WF cast's well and all but the cast isn't the key factor in catching fish. The DT will serve just as good in casting as a WF but with the DT's thickness towards the center of the belly...the more line you have out, the thicker the line is at the rod tip ( to an extent).

Keeping in consideration the grains of a DT/WF line is important, but not nearly as much as dealing with skagit/scandi's. A double taper line is essentially almost the same diameter from front to back excluding the taper sections at each end, IMO there is no limits to casting distance here as far as head length of the line. A double taper line isn't meant to turn over the meat and potatoes along with sink tip so the amount of grains doesn't have to be anywhere near the same grain number as a skagit rig.. just heavy enough to load the rod and carry a small dry fly or nymph rig along with.
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