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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 06-30-2015, 12:29 PM Thread Starter
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The Klamath Baisn Redband

Southern Oregon has a unusual set of circumstances that might have made it one of the coolest places to put your single handed and Micro speys to the test. Before all the dams were built on the Klamath River the steelhead would run all the way to the Klamath lake, stage there and run up the tributaries in the fall. when the dams were built it trapped a ton of these fish in the lake. this wasn't all bad though as there is a ton of food in the Klamath. The genetics of these fish matched the rich lake environment well, making huge AGRESSIVE steelhead like trout. These Trout now use the lake like the pacific and migrate out of it when the lake warms every summer and when they spawn. This means there are a ton of large aggressive trout in the river systems that love to take the swung fly. If you are as big into the small spey world as I am you might have to give the Basin a try. you can check out more about this amazing fishery on my blog. spey on!
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This is all true Nate ... And under normal weather conditions I'd agree ....

But ...

... The Southern Oregon Cascades do presently have a near zero snow melt base, we have no forseeable rain prediction for the coming Summer months, and we have both on-going and extended temperature predictions in excess of 100 degrees F for both the Rogue Valley and the K-Bay for the rest of the Summer.

Water temps and water levels on the Upper Klamath drainage are seriously being stressed this season, and our High Desert Redband Trout fishery is definitely under stress because of these conditions.

Plus the warm water dams on the Upper Klamath drainage only make this a worse case scenairo ...

The Upper Rogue on the other hand is a fine cold water/tailwater fishery that does presently have a good number of Spring Chinook, early run Summer Steelhead ... Plus an excellent stay at home Rainbow and Cutthroat trout population ...

This may be a good year to think about giving our High Desert Redband Trout fishery in Southern Oregon a time out.

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Cool Abit over the top.

Live there and walked out side ....

103 degrees.




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I'm thinking maybe it's time to leave the fresh water, and log some time on the salt, yarding out some halibut, albacore, and salmon.

just a thought.

"No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it is not the same river, and he is not the same man".--Heraclitus
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starting tomorrow, montana fwp has imposed hoot owl closures on many rivers. why does oregon allow their fisheries to be exploited when water temperatures reach critical levels? is it to create the need for more stocking, and justify more hatchery jobs?
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It's the same reason ODF&W is resistant to formal low-flow closures. They are oriented to opportunity, not conservation. For example, implementing a "bobber only" season for Fall Chinook fishing in lieu of low-flow restrictions is an example of them favoring expanded angling opportunities.
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Here's the water flows for all of Oregon.

Red dots are not a good thing: USGS Current Water Data for Oregon

You could dam the Chetco river with a tea cup: http://waterdata.usgs.gov/or/nwis/uv?site_no=14400000




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This is all true Nate ... And under normal weather conditions I'd agree ....

But ...

... The Southern Oregon Cascades do presently have a near zero snow melt base, we have no forseeable rain prediction for the coming Summer months, and we have both on-going and extended temperature predictions in excess of 100 degrees F for both the Rogue Valley and the K-Bay for the rest of the Summer.

Water temps and water levels on the Upper Klamath drainage are seriously being stressed this season, and our High Desert Redband Trout fishery is definitely under stress because of these conditions.

Plus the warm water dams on the Upper Klamath drainage only make this a worse case scenairo ...

The Upper Rogue on the other hand is a fine cold water/tailwater fishery that does presently have a good number of Spring Chinook, early run Summer Steelhead ... Plus an excellent stay at home Rainbow and Cutthroat trout population ...

This may be a good year to think about giving our High Desert Redband Trout fishery in Southern Oregon a time out.

Meiz
That's what I am saying, due to the politics of the basin, the lake is fuller now than it was last year. The Lakes surface elevation is 2' higher than last year at this time at 4141' and with the Williamson water temps swing from high 50's to the mid 60's in the day the fish will mingle at the springs and river mouths. once the lake gets to warm for the fish the shoot up the streams which are all spring fed, and plenty cool. that's the cool thing about this system, and that's why it grows huge trout. the funny thing is that even with the drought situation we are in, the fish have stayed in the lake longer this year because they have reduced the amount of irrigation water that has been removed from the over all system. 2 years ago, the fish were already packed in the mid Williamson by the first of June. This year, the big push is just starting to happen. The difference? The Tribe has the senior water rights now and they have ensured that there is more water for the fish. The basin has been one of the most diverse fisheries to predict over the past 3 or so years, and with the lack of snow it will continue to be, but the fish have a ton of cool water at their disposal, and if your catching fish that are sluggish and stressed you are fishing the wrong spots. before long all of those stressed fish will be in the cooler water.
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