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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 06-19-2015, 01:52 PM Thread Starter
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single hand fly line on a 2 hand spey rod

I was wanting to get a single hand line for overhead casting on a spey rod so I decided to try Airflo lines as they they are made of polyethylene. I wanted to get the correct weights of the heads of their fly lines so as to properly match a single hand line to a spey rod. The numbers stated for a single hand fly line don't mean anything anymore so I emailed Airflo, Rajeff Sports, for the information on the 12th. of this month, this is the 19th and still no reply. Is it that that Airflo makes so much money on their lines that they don't need to reply to to requests for info or they just don't care about customer requests.
Rio supplies grain weight info for their fly lines along with their advertising and line info so I guess it's Rio lines I'll be using.
This is the second time I have requested this info and the second time no reply.
Sad isn't it.
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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 06-19-2015, 02:12 PM
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I had the same problem with Airflo customer service. They don't answer and don't seem to care. I guess I'll spend my $ elsewhere.
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I had just the opposite experience. I called about cut points on Delta and Delta II's. The receptionist didn't have an answer for me but said she would get someone who would. Ten minutes later Tim Rajeff called and spent 20 minutes helping me determine cut points for tips and alternative ideas for tips. Maybe there are just good days and others.
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I have twice emailed Rajeff Sports with questions about matching their Airflo lines to rods and both times Jamie answered back within a day.
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I'm often astounded when I get a return e-mail within ten to fifteen minutes from Rajeff. Double-check the e-mail address and try again.
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So the point is..why a singe handed line for overhead casting with a Two Handed fly rod??!! The Columbia is a big river and you have several fellows that do use long 2 handers on that river so it is a good thing..th answer is very simple considering the rod that you have. Tim at Airflo is a very busy fellow and not always available...and there are seveal other casters there than may help..same as RIo..bt there are others..
So what are you trying to achieve and with what rod?
Lines I would offer up would be the Vector,Delta ,Vision Slide Spey,or Ace Scandi head,,the most efficient would likely be the Vector by Snake River Outfitters..you can contact me at the store f you have time and we can see what options areworkable for you...
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I was wanting to get a single hand line for overhead casting on a spey rod so I decided to try Airflo lines as they they are made of polyethylene. I wanted to get the correct weights of the heads of their fly lines so as to properly match a single hand line to a spey rod. The numbers stated for a single hand fly line don't mean anything anymore so I emailed Airflo, Rajeff Sports, for the information on the 12th. of this month, this is the 19th and still no reply. Is it that that Airflo makes so much money on their lines that they don't need to reply to to requests for info or they just don't care about customer requests.
Rio supplies grain weight info for their fly lines along with their advertising and line info so I guess it's Rio lines I'll be using.
This is the second time I have requested this info and the second time no reply.
Sad isn't it.
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I think folks way over estimate the size of a lot of the companies (meaning they may not have staff for full-time customer service), and underestimate the regular availability of folks at a small company.

For strictly overhead casting I've had good luck with just a few grains (20 - 50, depending on the wt rod, lower in the lower end, higher in the 7/8/9 range) under a scandi recommendation. If you want to go back and forth between spey and overhead, a scandi line in the range recommended for most rods would be great. works well.

The Airflow 40+ is a great line for either if sized to the application.
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Try calling. Leave the voice mail. They returned my call.

Shoot for 2 weights up on SH line. I think Airflo does have fpd file with grains on UK website.

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[QUOTE=domantas;1367578]Try calling. Leave the voice mail. They returned my call.

Shoot for 2 weights up on SH line.
"not such a good idea " an 8 wt single handed rod line is rated at about 200 grains and a 12 weight single handed line is rated at about 375 grains...compared to a typical north American rated Two Handed ,lets say 12'6" 6 wt..line weight recommendations might be about 375 grains..now this is somewhat confusing but don't re-invent the wheel..someone suggested to follow the scandi ratings and that is a good idea for iverhead casting Two Handed fly rods..
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Keep in mind that single hand line weights are the front 30' of fly line because that is what the single-hand line weight standard is defined on. This means that a given single-hand long-belly line (such as a steelhead/salmon taper) DT line will have a more than double the weight at 60' and about double the weight at 47-50'. So going up 2 line sizes will get you close. Using your example of an 8 wt being close to 200 grains (this is at 30'), it will be 400+ grains at about 45'. This will load a 6 wt 6 2-hander with ease. For an 8 wt 2-hander, you'd have to use a 10 wt long-belly or DT single-hander.
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