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McCune trout spey video

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Nice video. Thanks for posting. Almost makes me want to put a skagit head on my light trout spey rods...
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yup yup yup. Great video, really captures the essence of this method. Those rivers look soooo perfect for swinging, jealous!. These "micro-speys" work great with scandi taper lines as well, T&G casting (or the various poke casts Mike shows and double-speys) and easily carry most trout-sized bugs. Trout hate swung flies (hate = attack!).

For me, the glass is neither half-empty nor half-full, but rather twice as big as it needs to be.
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yup yup yup. Great video, really captures the essence of this method. Those rivers look soooo perfect for swinging, jealous!. These "micro-speys" work great with scandi taper lines as well, T&G casting (or the various poke casts Mike shows and double-speys) and easily carry most trout-sized bugs. Trout hate swung flies (hate = attack!).
They also work great with really short Skagit heads and T-11 MOW tips. Mike uses 11' Skagits in the 200-250 range. That gives him enough mass per foot to turn over a large, think Galloup sized, streamer. It also allows him to strip the fly in closer so its fishing for longer. Much better fishing tool than the 17'+ mini skagits available at the moment.
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Roger aaron (or is that Aaron Rogers? LOL), didn't mean to imply to not use the ultra-compact heads, those things almost cast themselves, and make it really easy to work around obstructions and through the boulder fields with the various types of pokes one can utilize.

For me, the glass is neither half-empty nor half-full, but rather twice as big as it needs to be.
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Great video!!
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Roger aaron (or is that Aaron Rogers? LOL), didn't mean to imply to not use the ultra-compact heads, those things almost cast themselves, and make it really easy to work around obstructions and through the boulder fields with the various types of pokes one can utilize.
Soft hackling with a light scandi head is a hoot. I get a little frustrated as the really light scandi's can't handle most poly leaders so you're relegated to floating lines and long leaders.
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I'm so glad to hear that there are more line options on the way. Yeah, 17' heads get the job done but I've always thought I'm just getting warmed up when the orange is back home at the tip. I usually jerk it on up 10' then set up for the next cast.
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Nice!.................

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Nice video ... beautiful scenery and trout !!


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Have you Swung a Spey Fly today ??
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Great video!
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They also work great with really short Skagit heads and T-11 MOW tips. Mike uses 11' Skagits in the 200-250 range. That gives him enough mass per foot to turn over a large, think Galloup sized, streamer. It also allows him to strip the fly in closer so its fishing for longer. Much better fishing tool than the 17'+ mini skagits available at the moment.
Do you have the skinny on what Rio has up their sleeve, with the new Trout Skagit heads? Or Sages new ultra light two handers that will be introduced?

... the pseudo-science of running-lines and matching heads has now devolved into such a miasma of obfuscation that it is a wonder that people are even not more confused....Erik Helm

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A #2 and a #3 Rod. 200 and 225-250 grain rods respectively, so truly trout sized. Skagit heads to match, at 11' long they'll turn over a Medium MOW and as big a fly as you can dream up. Helps solve the trade off of fishing a bigger rod to turn over a bigger fly and ending up over gunned for trout. Or as Mike calls it 'shooting a blacktail with an elephant gun'. Available 8/1. I believe they were at the Sandy Clave.
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Trout spey

I must be reading the line chart wrong, or is 200 and 225-250 grain around an old school 8 weight, can't be right.
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it makes sense when you factor in effects of single vs two-hand, overhead vs spey cast.

Correct that 210 grains is nominally for 30' of 8 wt single hand line. However, 210 grains in 30' shooting head format matches a modern 6 wt single hander for overhead casting, and a 5 wt single hander for spey casting. Then there's the usual 2-3 line weight difference between single vs. double-handed rod ratings in the USA. So 8 wt AFFTA = 6 wt single hand shooting head = 3 wt two-hander, or something like that. Often longer rods in these light weights can't help but flex, so despite what AFFTA single hand grains may suggest, they're well suited for trout (at least the Gary Anderson rods that I've tried are).
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