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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 04-26-2015, 05:13 PM Thread Starter
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Leader Question

When skating flies, what leader setup do you use? I'm worried that I've not found an adequate balance between strength, stealth, and presentation.

I use both my Echo Glass 3wt switch and a graphite 5wt switch. Any thoughts on different leaders between the two?
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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 04-26-2015, 10:45 PM
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TTL I like to go a rod length or maybe a foot or two longer(for extra stealth). Regular non fluorocarbon leader but somewhat stout tippet of 4X fluorocarbon at the very lightest end and sometimes 2X fluorocarbon for low light situations. I know fluorocarbon sinks but not really when there is a water skier on the end of it. It seems to have a little better shock resistance/knot strength. That may not have been the case in the past but I think the technology has gotten better.

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depends on the line and size/bulk of the fly i'm using. scandi : 1.25-1.5x rod length. short/midbelly : rod length or slightly less. dont use skagit much, but after looping the floating tip to the head (tip is a must imo) no more than rod length. i like a butt that matches the flex of the line tip and no more than 3 feet of tippet, usually 1 or 2x down to sz 10 flies.

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Airflo 10 ft. floating poly-leader with 3-4 ft. Maxima Chameleon, 12- 10 lb. test, knotted to 3-4 ft. of 8, 6, or 4 lb. Ultragreen as a tippet, depending on fly size and conditions.

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Thanks for the input, fellas. As I sometimes switch over to nymphing with my 3wt, I've been throwing a standard WF line. It is almost certainly a casting issue, but I struggle to turn over long, fine leaders with the Echo Glass.
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I agree w/m mike 1.25x1.5 times rod length for leader regardless of rod. A tapered mono leader will do. What kind of line makes a difference. You mention WF. Is that a single handed line? If so, you'll want apx. three line sizes up to properly load a rod for Spey casts. A 3wt single handed line on a 3wt Rod won't load enough for good Spey casts IMHO.
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Airflo 10 ft. floating poly-leader with 3-4 ft. Maxima Chameleon, 12- 10 lb. test, knotted to 3-4 ft. of 8, 6, or 4 lb. Ultragreen as a tippet, depending on fly size and conditions.

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you might try posting in the rod section "line recomendations for (insert your rod model here)" you will find lots of different suggestions for lines. for shorter, lighter rods, i like scandi for skating flies. keep in mind, some of the really bulky flies may need a heavier line to cast well than a 3wt rod will handle. and that goes for single, or double handed rods.

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I agree w/m mike 1.25x1.5 times rod length for leader regardless of rod. A tapered mono leader will do. What kind of line makes a difference. You mention WF. Is that a single handed line? If so, you'll want apx. three line sizes up to properly load a rod for Spey casts. A 3wt single handed line on a 3wt Rod won't load enough for good Spey casts IMHO.

I should have been more clear. I'm throwing a WF7. Seems to work well for the short(ish) casts I need from this rod.
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Are we talking steelhead here? 3Wt switch and suggested 4lb sounds we talking trout here..

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If you like to tie your own, try this (should work on both of your setups):

Maxima Chameleon butt/mid section (put a perfection loop on each end of this section)- join sections with blood knots
#30 - 3'
#25 - 2'
#20 - 6"
#15 - 6"

Maxima Ultra green tippet section:
(loop) #12 - 6"
#10 - 6"
#8 - 6"
#6 (.009) - 30" (for a 2x leader) go finer if desired like #5 (.008) for a 3x leader, etc.


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