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Great flies, and neat coneheads. That's certainly a different take on things. It's awesome to see some other ideas-

Thanks guys. I needed these muddlers to sink fast to offset the current. They fish well on my home waters.
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Same But Different...

Reversed the light and dark, but basically the same feathers used.

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Funny you should say that, as it started out as a "trout spey".



Those amazing tiers on that "other forum" got me into tying in hand and this was a little practice session. I was only wrapping some thread and the hackle, and was not too thrilled, so I pulled it all back and made a into a tail. Then it took off from there!



I will try my best to give you a pattern as I don't know what to call some of the feathers. All are from a full Rink-Necked Pheasant skin. (RP)



Hook- AJ sz. 7

Tail- RP rump

Rear body- dubbing of choice, with three turns of oval tinsel

Mid-hackle- I guess, it would be a RP flank? If you have a skin, it's the pretty bluish, purplish ones towards the outside.

Front body- dubbing of choice, again three turns of oval tinsel

Throat/collar- bear with me... on each side of the rump, a nice soft hackle, golden in color, with a brownish base.

Wing- ?? Further up the bird, on either side, the golden feathers with a touch of black at the tip. Tied in spoon style then fully fuzzed up and brushed out, along with the rest of the stuff.



Hope that helps!



I can take some pic's to clarify if anyone needs them.



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Thanks bill. I have a full skin so i can search those feathers out. And a sticky for trout flies would be great.


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Thanks bill. I have a full skin so i can search those feathers out. And a sticky for trout flies would be great.


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Oh no, you can't tie this one up until you show us a "little brownie"!

You will find, as you maneuver through the Pheasant skin, there are so many feathers that will work on this pattern. What an underrated and incredible bird! Absolutely inspiring!!

Just start plucking and wrapping!

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Hey Bill, is that mid-hackle palmered forward through the thorax region, or is it just in the middle? I'd fish that fly in confidence. In fact i'm going to tie a few up for my local water.
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The green wire one SCREAMS OUT for King Salmon.

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Thats a solid pattern. I tie quite a bit with pheasant rump dyed in various colors. I tie up a conehead muddler and use PR for the hackle.
Used a very similar fly on the Chetco River for years. Sank like a rock in deep pools where those fellows hung out just out of the 'Salt.' Only time I ever used my 9 or 10 wt rods. Odd to feel 'The take,' rod just started to 'throb' for a lack of a better term.

Years back, wife 2.0 next to me (she was using a 'drift rod/reel); I looked at her rod: "You have a King Salmon on the end of your line."

"I do?"

"Reef back and set the hook."

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Hey Bill, is that mid-hackle palmered forward through the thorax region, or is it just in the middle? I'd fish that fly in confidence. In fact i'm going to tie a few up for my local water.
Just the middle. I can't wait to try these out myself.

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I agree, we do need a separate HFF section for trout. It would make it easier to distinguish patterns from the steelhead/salmon ones.
I'm bettin' a steelface or salmon would take that same pattern. Trout aren't such different animals....

I REALLY like that patten, and I'm a deranged pheasant hunter as well, so this is greatly appreciated.
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I'm bettin' a steelface or salmon would take that same pattern. Trout aren't such different animals....

I REALLY like that patten, and I'm a deranged pheasant hunter as well, so this is greatly appreciated.
I'm hoping to try it out on all species this year!!

What other birds do you have in your area? Ruffed Grouse have some really great feathers to play with as well.

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Ruffed Grouse have some really great feathers to play with as well.

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Indeed they do! As a grouse hunter, I have plenty of RG feathers to play with. One of these days, I'll try to cure an entire skin. This has been a tough season though. So it might be a little while before I have that chance!
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Indeed they do! As a grouse hunter, I have plenty of RG feathers to play with. One of these days, I'll try to cure an entire skin. This has been a tough season though. So it might be a little while before I have that chance!
I didn't even get out this season, but judging from last year, I probably wouldn't have faired too well!

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What other birds do you have in your area?
a few quail. and ducks.

I have a couple of bags of Hungarian partridge feathers that make really nice soft hackles.
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Here is an old thread I started, skip to pg. 2 and Hitcher has a SBS on some sweet trout speys! http://www.speypages.com/speyclave/s...ad.php?t=53776
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Thanks for that, Levi!

Great ideas in that thread.

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I do like drifting soft hackles, especially when the spotted sedges and PMDs are coming off on the SF of the Snake, but I like to toss bigger stuff and find the greedy fish, too. Not every river seems to "swing" the same - some like it old school, some like some strips mixed in, and some like it hot all the way back. I use this style a lot. They work well for the triangle water and in tailouts and can handle getting down deep if I need to. I change it up here and there and will add an extra rabbit strip if I plan on using the color combo on some known crawdad haunts.
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