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I'm debating picking up the 3106 since I already have a 5wt switch. I've read all through the posts and there hasn't been any new info from anybody's experience recently. Airflo has a new line called the scout? Has anyone tried this one yet?
I am going to be demoing the lines as soon as they send me the correct ones to test lol. They shipped me the wrong grains twice. Now have 2 150gr and 2 180gr sitting on my tying bench. The 150 would be awesome on my singlehanded Echo Glass 3wt.

I will post a review once they send me what I need.
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Mentioned previously that I've been casting the 3106 with an Airflo Switch Float WF3.5F 240 grains, using 5-10 ft polyleaders, mostly with soft hackles and small streamers. Still liking this combination, but now have also tried an OPST Commando head 175 grains, also with polyleaders and similar flies, with quite good results as well. Given the range of comments in this thread, it seems clear that these glass rods have a pretty wide grain window, accommodating a wide range of lines and casting styles.

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It's been awhile, but are you still liking the Switch float 3.5? I figure this is more of a TNG casting style than the scout line or commando heads. I plan on swinging soft hackles, muddlers, and skating flies with this setup.

It appears the 240 gr area is where this rod excels the best at based off everybodies experience.

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My 3106 arrived today. I'm still at a loss for what line I want to use. I know I want lighter flies with TNG casting. So I ordered a 2wt RIO switch chucker at 225gr with a head length of 25. This is similar to the Airflo Switch float line, but with a more aggressive front taper. I'll give it a go and let everybody know how it feels.

What reels does everybody use on these rods to balance it out?

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My 3106 arrived today. I'm still at a loss for what line I want to use. I know I want lighter flies with TNG casting. So I ordered a 2wt RIO switch chucker at 225gr with a head length of 25. This is similar to the Airflo Switch float line, but with a more aggressive front taper. I'll give it a go and let everybody know how it feels.

What reels does everybody use on these rods to balance it out?

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So the got the Scout heads got to finally test them on my 11' 7wt Echo Classic, I do also have the 150 for my Glass Echo 3wt but its a singlehanded rod... They are very Similar to the OPST heads. They cast nicely but, if you are looking for a delicate landing these heads do not do that. Always a splat on the water, so if you are fishing spooky resident fish I wouldn't recommend this head. But if you are fishing bigger water for Steelies/Salmon by all means this head is perfect for that.

I have the gen 1 switch chucker on my Echo Classic right now and its a very nice line to cast. However if its the newer line with the white head, to orange near the top of the head then green to the running line they changed something and it doesn't cast as well as the gen 1 switch chucker line. Just my .02

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Wondering if anyone has any more feedback on the 3106? I bought one and took it out this morning for the first time. Spooled up a few 6 weight single hand lines I had on hand. So far, I've tried:

Rio LT wf6f which is really nice with a 9 foot floro leader and small soft hackles. This line needs a fairly agressive flat D loop where there is some good momentum going back with a tight, well pointed D loop to get a load on the rod. With this type of D loop the forward cast is quite springy and the line unrolls very well. With a more relaxed D loop the rod doesn't load up easily and the line doesn't unroll easily.

Airflo 40+ 6 weight floater. Kind of clunky with a spey cast, might have to play with different leaders. The weight is there, and you can relax with the D loop a bit and it wants to cast, just not very gracefully. This line casts pretty well on this rod overhead though and fires a size 10 beadhead fly with authority. Still, when I go back to a spey cast it's not so great. But workable.

Up next but not tried yet I have an SA Titan taper and a Cortland 444 peach DT6F. Will report back on those.

I'm really interested in hearing about the Airflo Switch float, does this rod like the 3 or the 3.5, snd is the lightest Switch Streamer (a 4) too heavy on the 3106 with sinking polys?

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It's been awhile, but are you still liking the Switch float 3.5? I figure this is more of a TNG casting style than the scout line or commando heads. I plan on swinging soft hackles, muddlers, and skating flies with this setup.

It appears the 240 gr area is where this rod excels the best at based off everybodies experience.
I do still use the Airflo Switch Float 3.5 with this rod, and find it a strong launcher. Also have enjoyed playing with the OPST Commando in 175 grain, and find it a real hoot too. Mostly swinging small streamers and soft hackles for trout, with various polyleaders.

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Excellent. I spooled up the Rio switch chucker 2wt at 225gr. It works great for small streamers and size 6 steelhead flies. I think this would be good for all around work if you like quick TNG casting. If I was just wanted to huck big meat i'd put on the 240gr scout line.

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Wondering if anyone has any more feedback on the 3106? I bought one and took it out this morning for the first time. Spooled up a few 6 weight single hand lines I had on hand. So far, I've tried:

Rio LT wf6f which is really nice with a 9 foot floro leader and small soft hackles. This line needs a fairly agressive flat D loop where there is some good momentum going back with a tight, well pointed D loop to get a load on the rod. With this type of D loop the forward cast is quite springy and the line unrolls very well. With a more relaxed D loop the rod doesn't load up easily and the line doesn't unroll easily.

Airflo 40+ 6 weight floater. Kind of clunky with a spey cast, might have to play with different leaders. The weight is there, and you can relax with the D loop a bit and it wants to cast, just not very gracefully. This line casts pretty well on this rod overhead though and fires a size 10 beadhead fly with authority. Still, when I go back to a spey cast it's not so great. But workable.

Up next but not tried yet I have an SA Titan taper and a Cortland 444 peach DT6F. Will report back on those.

I'm really interested in hearing about the Airflo Switch float, does this rod like the 3 or the 3.5, snd is the lightest Switch Streamer (a 4) too heavy on the 3106 with sinking polys?
Im using the Rio switch chucker line at 225gr. It's almost identical to the airflow, but its like a foot shorter on the head. I'd probably lean towards the airflow 3.5 than the 3 knowing how the 225gr casts.
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So far I'm liking the switch chucker #2 line on this rod for unweighted flies. I'm having a bit of a problem finding the sweet spot in my anchor with the water current speed and allowing the rod to fully load to launch the line. It's hit and miss. Anybody else having this problem?
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For me the 2 best lines I've tried so far on the 3106 are a couple of long belly single hand lines, The Rio Trout LT wf7f and Airflo Delta wf8f. Yep, 7 and 8 weight lines. Cast beautifully and reach the power available in the butt of this rod. 5 and 6 weight lines are fine for casting off the tip but never allow the rod to reach it's potential. Still makes for a nice presentation for smaller fish and little soft hackles.

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So far I'm liking the switch chucker #2 line on this rod for unweighted flies. I'm having a bit of a problem finding the sweet spot in my anchor with the water current speed and allowing the rod to fully load to launch the line. It's hit and miss. Anybody else having this problem?

I needed a longer leader. I put on a 10' intermediate poly leader and that fixed my anchor problem. tight loops from here on out!

I managed to hook into a 21" rainbow today on a muddler. That bent the 3106 all the way down into the cork. I've never had a rod bend that far. Thats about the biggest fish I want to play on this rod. I managed to land the fish without completely wearing him out. What a fun rod!

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Spent the weekend swinging swimming nymphs the 3106 with the 175gr OPST head, 10ft light iMow full intermediate, and 2-4 ft of 8lb maxima ultra green. This setup worked really, really well. Caught a 16in cutthroat and a 14" northern pikeminnow. Switched out the iMow for a T7 Flo tip and the setup was okay, definitely at the top of the grain window for my stroke. Will try to weigh the Flo tip and see how much heavier it is, but I may be investing in a 2/7 and the 5/5 light iMow. That would cover everything I do minus skating dries.

Plan on retesting the 3.5 switch float this weekend on some wider waters with intermediate polyleaders. While not as versatile as the OPST with Light iMOWs it may be worth having for thin water and spooky fish. May also pick up one of the new skagit scout heads in 240.
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I got the 4 wt. this summer. I love it. I've cast the Scandi on it, but I like the Switch Line better. With trout fishing, sometimes you need to retrieve or make short casts and it's nice having a seamless connection. Love the rod a ton though. I've been using it to swing soft hackles on the Clark Fork and the Missouri and getting a 16" grab on the glass is pretty fun. It protects tippets pretty well. I usually run 'em on 4x off a poly leader, float, hover, or intermediate, depending on my mood and the conditions. It'll throw small streamers real well too.

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Will the 4wt. 10'8" throw 10' of T-7 or T-10 with a 3 in. rabbit leech (small dumbells)? Just trying to figure out the limitations of this rod. I can cast a single hand rod with a 270 skagit max trout short and it handles this setup. Just curious if this rod can handle it with the grain windows being similar?

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Hey guys,

Been following this thread with great interest, I got the 3106 a week or so back, and took it for its first outing yesterday. Test cast with my existing Rio Single hand spey 5WF and an Airflo Elite DT5. Definitely liked the loading of the RIo better, as it has approx 205 grains in the (longish) head in front of a thin integrated running line. The Rio website recommends the 6 wt SHS though. Good for Scandi TNG, but head is too long for Skagit IMO.

I think the DT was fine for overhead casting, but definitely a bit light for Spey, especially considering the thick mid section was too much friction in the guides to shoot properly.

Which leads me to think I should get something that loads more deeply into the rod. Aside from testing with an old Airflo 6WF line that I possess, I am thinking the new short head Wulff ambush line might be the ticket. Has anyone had a play with this new line?

I have OPST in 275 gn, but would prefer to keep to integrated lines, as I wouldn't be confident that my reel could deal with thin mono shooting line, and I don't expect to cast far most of the time anyway.

BTW - the Hardy Ultralite cassette reel (5000 size) weighs around 7.5 OZ, and is close to perfect on this rod! Having 3 cheap plastic cassette spools to switch out lines is always useful.
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