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post #16 of 78 (permalink) Old 01-30-2015, 01:58 PM
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Had mine out with a standard WF5 a couple days ago, and it performed decently with the addition of a poly leader. However, I think more mass is needed when there is even a bit of wind.

The experiment continues . . .
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post #17 of 78 (permalink) Old 01-31-2015, 10:21 PM
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Glass 4108

Rajeff musta finally approved the 4 - mine came a couple days ago. The grain window is the same as the SR, but independent line tests have me leaning heavier. I went straight for the 275 skagit and just couldn't get either the timing or the oomph out of the line to turn over a heavy poly in the breeze. A 290gr Ambush seems to wake it up. I'll keep fiddlin' with it-
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My local fly shop rec'd their shipment of the Echo glass TH rods.

I must revise my opinion on these designs.

We test cast the prototypes in Oct/Nov and were impressed,,, the production rods are much softer and deeper flexing,,,, border line too soft,,,for my casting style.

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Still messing with the 4108. The Ambush #8 290gr is still my favorite on this rod, and I'd put money on the new Airflo Switch Streamer 300gr that it would sing on it as well. I had it out this past week and was amazed at the distance I was getting out it. This river usually will give up a few 17-18" fish but colder temps had them stingy. I did manage a couple smaller fish that put a bend in the rod-

I was getting out there pretty good with a 325 Rio short and 10' fast sink poly and medium weighted fly, but the Ambush did just as well with the same.

Did try a 280gr scandi, which was passable, but not quite the joy I was looking for...
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I received my 3106 the the other day and was able to test it out today. I put a Hardy Princess with a Rio versitip 5wt on it. I found it to be too light as it would not load the rod. I did manage to catch 4 bull trout to 20" on it. While it handled the fish, I would not want to catch much bigger on a consistent basis.

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I looked at this rod the other day in the fly shop. Seemed more like a LARGE trout / half pounded type rod than a sub 18" trout spey? Am I missing something? I know they have it rated for lighter lines but still seems heavy for fish right power for trout 12-20"?

Would love to hear some more from those of you that have fished it and could give me some more feed back about fish fighting power and if it is over kill for that size fish or not?

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I bought the 4wt glass a shortly after my post above and have fished it a couple times. They didn't have the 3wt and I wanted to try one of the light ones so I just bought the 4wt. It was better than I expected and fun with fish in the mid teens. I didn't catch anything smaller than 16" (which is not the norm for my local rivers) so it was a fun time. Caught a few 18-20" fish and it was a great rod for that, plenty of flex to be fun for fighting them but also enough power to land wild trout quick. It turned over big streamers no prob and was fun to cast once I got it down. I am taking half day tomorrow and going to play around with an ambush line for the first time instead of just shooting heads.
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Converting Loomis Pro 4 X

I am considering changing my Loomis 10 ft Pro 4 X 6wt to a 2 hander as I can buy switch rod grips and reel seat set from Mudhole for a very reasonable price.It would be a simple job.Has anyone out there done such a thing and if so how did it go? If not what do you think of the idea.I live in Australia and go to New Zealand a couple times each year and think it would be a useful conversion but have no one here to run it by first.I have a Wulff ambush 7wt and a Rio LT 6wt as well as an Airflo 40 plus extreme distance which I think will be somewhere to start with lines.

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Still messing with the 4108. The Ambush #8 290gr is still my favorite on this rod, and I'd put money on the new Airflo Switch Streamer 300gr that it would sing on it as well. I had it out this past week and was amazed at the distance I was getting out it. This river usually will give up a few 17-18" fish but colder temps had them stingy. I did manage a couple smaller fish that put a bend in the rod-

I was getting out there pretty good with a 325 Rio short and 10' fast sink poly and medium weighted fly, but the Ambush did just as well with the same.

Did try a 280gr scandi, which was passable, but not quite the joy I was looking for...
I test cast a buddy's 4108 this week, and a 240gr SGS Scandi(?) put a big smile on my face. I didn't want to take that head off, but I had other stuff to try. I also tried a 266 gr Scandi(different taper?)that I got no joy from. A 275 Rio, Skagit Short with a 10' fast sinking poly was good for a sinking setup, but I personally think I'd like a 7' poly instead. Super fun little rod!

Just another example of "different strokes for different folks". No right or wrong answers here.

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...a 240gr SGS Scandi(?) put a big smile on my face.
I'll have to give that a go. Thanks man!
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3 or 4

Kinda trying to decide between the 3 and the 4 to go lower than my 5wt platinum spey here. Probably going to get the 3106 since it seems that the 4108 will require heads that close to what the current 5wt is using.
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Kinda trying to decide between the 3 and the 4 to go lower than my 5wt platinum spey here. Probably going to get the 3106 since it seems that the 4108 will require heads that close to what the current 5wt is using.
I'm using an ambush 6wt on my 4wt and can turn over 10' of T8 and large but no p&l born with a good load and an cast it out there 70-80' if needed. Most of th runs in swi inc this rod I am only shooting 10-20' of line though
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I'm really interested in getting either the 3 or the 4 but wanted to know a little more about their action. For those of you who have tried them are they more "switchy" or do they have more of a full spey-type action?
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4wt bought

I bought the 4wt last week and have the same question as the above poster since I still haven't received it yet.

have anyone tried the new Echo Switch Floating and the streamer yet?
I saw Tim used the floating version in his Echo video on youtube but no reviews online about it. I think the streamer at 300 grain at the lightest is a bit too heavy for the 3wt and the 4wt.
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I love swinging smallish (12-16) soft hackles in the riffles and on glassy water. Think the Madison around West Fork and the Firehole in the park.

Would any of these light line rods be good for such a task? I'd actually prefer a full spey, I think. Any suggestions?

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For those of you who have tried them are they more "switchy" or do they have more of a full spey-type action?
I have both the Echo SR and the Echo Glass in 4wt. I run 4wts because of the size of the heaviest flies I typically use in my area. They work well for me and I've never felt overgunned. The SR, for me, is a switch. The Glass has a lot more going on flex-wise so I would say, IMO, it's not so switch-like. I find myself treating it like a mini spey.

I fished the Glass all day yesterday and had a great time, and the rod handled some hot fish like a boss. It's the kind of rod you don't mind blowing off the fish to cast for the hell of it. The #8 Ambush (290gr) with fast sink poly is still my favorite for skagit. I did have a SGS intermediate Scandit type line (240gr) on hand that was a blast to cast, too. Those grains line up close enough with Rajeff specs for the new Switch float and streamer lines (if I remember right).

One other thing...this rod has some pop in the underhand. If you can get it loaded and find that sweet spot it will bomb.
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