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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old 04-28-2017, 08:08 PM Thread Starter
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Can't believe I missed Jeffs videos

Lots of great Farlex reel action and Meiser's


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post #2 of 28 (permalink) Old 04-29-2017, 04:32 AM
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Great Film. So nice to hear some other music than rock or dark club beats. Very inspiring Good I'm visiting Oregon and BC in June


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Cool video, questionable landing practices.
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Cool video, questionable landing practices.
Very much so

That's usually the case which is shocking because if you're so passionate how do you miss the obvious
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Cool video, questionable landing practices.

They might have done worse. I saw a YouTube video last month where my hero Roderick Haig-Brown actually gilled about a 12 lb steelhead holding it up for the camera for quite a while before releasing it. Very cringeworthy by modern standards. On the other hand he commented about how important is was to return the fish you catch to the river, which was probably a radical idea back then.
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Ive never seen such small "20lbers" in my life............ ;-)
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Ive never seen such small "20lbers" in my life............ ;-)

He was measuring with Eastern standards not Western

Eastern standards are: (length) x2+12inches

Western Standards are: "that's a good size" or "nice one" or actual length measured by tape
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He was measuring with Eastern standards not Western

Eastern standards are: (length) x2+12inches

Western Standards are: "that's a good size" or "nice one" or actual length measured by tape
He was using GSU (guide system of units)

Edit: I take it back - I watched the video again. First time I thought the coment about the weight was from a guide. I see this was actually a mistake on my part, so the "G" in GSU must actually stand for "GoPro".

I also noted this time some of the soundtrack has a piece of music that had what sounded like repeated washboard as one of the "instruments" at exactly the same pitch as the reel, which was actually going out from very slowly to not at all, so that was some subliminal hijinks.
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He was measuring with Eastern standards not Western

Eastern standards are: (length) x2+12inches

Western Standards are: "that's a good size" or "nice one" or actual length measured by tape

So mean!.........LOL
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has entertainment value but found it a bit boring - only so much you can do with a goPro

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As a professional Cameraman in the motion picture industry it would be easy for me to criticize Jeff's video but the fact is I enjoyed watching it. GoPro's are great for a project like this. The dilemma when your fishing is who wants to be the videographer. It looks like Jeff had a great time putting this together. Excellent to hear those screaming reels.

The challenge for those that were critical of this video is to make a better one. Avid videographers find out quickly how much time and effort is needed to put a project like this together... Lets see what you can do...

Jeff has offered assistance to me from afar on my Spey journey and I have used some of his flies (they work) . Hope to meet him one day.

I met Dave Robinson on the river and now consider him a friend... He is a fish magnet!

Thanks for posting this J.James.
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As a professional Cameraman in the motion picture industry it would be easy for me to criticize Jeff's video but the fact is I enjoyed watching it. GoPro's are great for a project like this. The dilemma when your fishing is who wants to be the videographer. It looks like Jeff had a great time putting this together. Excellent to hear those screaming reels.

The challenge for those that were critical of this video is to make a better one. Avid videographers find out quickly how much time and effort is needed to put a project like this together... Lets see what you can do...

Jeff has offered assistance to me from afar on my Spey journey and I have used some of his flies (they work) . Hope to meet him one day.

I met Dave Robinson on the river and now consider him a friend... He is a fish magnet!

Thanks for posting this J.James.
Yeah, but GoPro addicts aren't videographers, they're narcissists.
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Yeah, but GoPro addicts aren't videographers, they're narcissists.
This is sort of my prejudice as well. It's terrible, but until proven otherwise I usually assume that for GoPro guys the camera is the whole point of whatever they are "documenting" and kind of morphs the whole activity. Not really trying to place an absolute value system, just to ID a certain type. So a la Jeff Foxworthy:

If you have a 6 minute road trip preamble to a 10 minute fishing video, you might own a GoPro

If you think it is cool to dub death metal over video of a pastoral setting, you might own a GoPro.

If you don't see a problem with bringing a drone into a national park and buzzing the other visitors and the wildlife, you very well may own a GoPro.

But most definitely..

If you tend to mistreat fish you just caught and tend to view them first as an "actor" in your creation, and only as an afterthought take care not cause them undue stress, then you probably own a GoPro.

(I'm thinking not at all about this one, full disclosure, but of case like the guys from Montana last year that wanted to get lot of underwater footage. The raw footage showed they had some of the fish on for like 10 minutes to get just the right shots, and so on)

Etc. etc.

I've seen some some heartbreakingly beautiful and moving videos put together using one, so I guess it is the just the center of the bell curve and ones done specifically for YouTube that give them a bad name.

I enjoyed this one too, btw. It is easy to get distracted by documenting all the beautiful fish! OP is on my bucket list. I've backpacked there but never fished.
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A comment about landing fish... Its one thing to land a medium sized hatchery Steelhead and something completely different with a hot wild fish fresh from the ocean.

For my own knowledge what would you do differently? This could be a good opportunity to offer an opinion as to how it could be done with less impact to the fish.

Personally I am not a fan of using a mitt but the argument is that by keeping a firm grip the mitt reduces the chance of the fish thrashing on the rocks before the hook can be removed. Big fish big wrist... A deep water return is better but again very difficult to do in some circumstances.

A hero shot it is so much better with the fish in the water (if needed at all) . We need those nice big hens to come back again and be productive filling our rivers with offspring.
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GoPro narcissist

Anyone that wants a photo with their fresh caught fish is a narcissist... Does not take a GoPro to satisfy that requirement I hold my view that a GoPro is a good tool. You might be surprised how many films incorporate their use. Hard to tell in a quick cutting sequence.

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