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#7 ·
He is not anchoring the cast on the rod but setting up the cast by laying the head on the rod as a means of minimizing the probability of either the set up or the D-loop catching the vegetation behind him.

This method gets top marks for originality.

In a similar situation, I would use known casts -- classic spey and sustained anchor -- and essentially try to solve the problem by anchoring the cast well out in front.

Perhaps this Bonker Spey cast is a more stealthful cast for some specific situations? Got my wheels turning....
 
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I'm going to be practicing this as it will solve the problems on a couple of seriously overgrown stretches on a little river in SW Scotland which I'll be fishing this October.

It's only a small river (in Scotland it's termed as a "water" meaning it doesn't qualify for the grand title of River) so in general to low flows I fish most of it with a little 10' 8" #6wt switch rod, swapping to an 11' 6" #7wt in slightly higher flows or on wider pools; in high water when it's rushing through the fish lie in the sides of the river so I use a 12 or 13 ft rod maximum just to handle the faster sinking heads needed to hold the fly at the depth required.

I think this cast will definitely allow me to cover some otherwise very difficult lies or pools, in lower flows this river it's pretty slow flowing like the one in the video so it will give me plenty of time to set the cast up the way it was demonstrated.

I just need to make sure I don't end up with any unplanned facial piercings whilst I'm still on the initial steep part of the learning curve......

Regards, Tyke.
 
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It’s indeed brilliant and, in my opinion, a completely new approach for difficult situations. Difficult in sense of limited casting room and stealthy approach.
As I am tangling myself not that seldom when experimenting all combinations of casts, I guess I will train it without flies first when training to do this rod tangles intentionally. It will need some tangles to bring it to practical use.

Take a look at sexyloops for the discussion about it.
 
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Hi all, hi bender, thanks for sharing bonkerspey here and thanks for your comments. I was told by line speed jedi through my u tube channel that my rod born anchor casting aka bonkerspey method was shared here. Thanks for that too.
Please let me know how you are getting on with this or if you need any help.
I m highly interested in a feedback on the method.
It also works well in windy conditions.
Someone was asking about long belly lines: i ve done it with heads up to 55 ft so far.
If you try it out its very important do do it as slow as possible and watch the line falling into D configuration. The line can be boned from both sides of the rod and accordingly the D develops into the good side or the cross body (cack handed) side.
I recommend a playfull aproach. It takes a bit to get used to the flow and you need to focus. It is a powerful, versatile and easy method once you get your head around it. It's no more difficult than any other spey cast. I had compleat beginners doing it after 15 minutes.

Hope to hear more from you about this and thanks again

Cheers and TL
Michael
 
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Hi all, hi bender, thanks for sharing bonkerspey here and thanks for your comments. I was told by line speed jedi through my u tube channel that my rod born anchor casting aka bonkerspey method was shared here. Thanks for that too.
Please let me know how you are getting on with this or if you need any help.
I m highly interested in a feedback on the method.
It also works well in windy conditions.
Someone was asking about long belly lines: i ve done it with heads up to 55 ft so far.
If you try it out its very important do do it as slow as possible and watch the line falling into D configuration. The line can be boned from both sides of the rod and accordingly the D develops into the good side or the cross body (cack handed) side.
I recommend a playfull aproach. It takes a bit to get used to the flow and you need to focus. It is a powerful, versatile and easy method once you get your head around it. It's no more difficult than any other spey cast. I had compleat beginners doing it after 15 minutes.

Hope to hear more from you about this and thanks again



Cheers and TL
Michael
I've "bonked" a couple of these casts since seeing it here. First crack at it after getting the line wrapped on the rod, your vid came to me and was able to use the rod to swing the belly into a d-loop and just like that... out it went. This is with an Airflo Dalta Long 7/8 63 foot mid-belly

It is an example of what can be done when you're comfortable with a fly line.
Cheers,
Vic.
 
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First off, thanks for sharing! I am still chewing on some of the details, but I am impressed at the creativity. I’m not quite sure I fully grasp the advantage of using the rod to bonk the line vs using a slow double Spey (or snap-T) and keeping the D-loop shallow and forward? I can see that it would certainly be easier to keep the cast quiet, which can be a big advantage at times. As far as keeping the D-loop shallow I’m curious as to how you see this method is advantageous? I’m honestly still processing the methods; not in any way challenging them.
Thanks again for sharing this with us,
JB
 
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I stumbled on this presentation a few months ago, tried it and it proved as advertised.
It feels to me like an extended version of the wrap cast--by starting out with a smaller diameter sweeping circle and giving it an extra revolution before the forward cast, it shows an advantage. Props to the creator.

Sadly, I've seen hints of snark in other threads referencing the technique, or perhaps I mistook "humor" for something less complimentary.

I can't abide anyone who would mock or otherwise demean an unconventional or unusual technique, performed successfully or otherwise when offered in generosity. If no one ever asked "what if", nothing would likely ever improve. I've 'thrown shade' myself, and lived to regret it. Just saying...
 
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