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I'm thinking that one does not make 60 yard field goals, 500 foot home runs, or OhMyGawd spey casts with perfect technique alone. They take perfect technique combined with extra power.
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I'm thinking that one does not make 60 yard field goals, 500 foot home runs, or OhMyGawd spey casts with perfect technique alone. They take perfect technique combined with extra power.
There is power but applied in micro moments in the cast....the very best caster I know who has won sor more than anyone else will spend hours just practicing his angle change and looking for where his anchor lands without doing a single forward cast......technique far outweighs being big and strong
Ever made an amazing cast that just went out there perfect? I can can guarantee you put way less effort into that cast than when you are ‘trying to force’ it out there
Point being brute force does not outweigh technique
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Ever made an amazing cast that just went out there perfect? I can can guarantee you put way less effort into that cast than when you are ‘trying to force’ it out there
Point being brute force does not outweigh technique
Kinda like sh casting when folks last false cast is better than the cast they end with, the one with that extra bit of umph that creates the tailing loop.
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Come on. We've all seen guys trying to muscle it out there. No technique at all, cutting off the sweep, never letting the d loop form, all top hand, anchor 20 feet up stream. Smoothness and technique wins out every time. Being under control, to me, will always win out. Never seen a great caster who didn't make it look easy. Timing and technique.
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Kinda like sh casting when folks last false cast is better than the cast they end with, the one with that extra bit of umph that creates the tailing loop.
That sounds just like an embarrassing number of my SH casts. How did you know?!
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To argue the other side: when I was learning to spey cast, and many of my casts were going to be bad, I could sense during the cast (probably as I started the forward stroke) that my anchor was right and I was starting the forward stroke on time, that it was going to be a good cast; and it was. There's no substitute for excellent technique, and knowing when and how much power to apply is part of excellent technique. Of course, brute power is poor technique.
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Can you please elaborate on this statement Vic about brute force being a technique and give some examples
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There is power but applied in micro moments in the cast....the very best caster I know who has won sor more than anyone else will spend hours just practicing his angle change and looking for where his anchor lands without doing a single forward cast......technique far outweighs being big and strong
Ever made an amazing cast that just went out there perfect? I can can guarantee you put way less effort into that cast than when you are ‘trying to force’ it out there
Point being brute force does not outweigh technique

- and started to notice a pattern that the easiest casts are the most straightforward and basic. Simple fundamentals I keep talking about: Small stick, large d loop, and 180˚ out. I'll add "drift" to that technique. It is the same when spey casting and when casting over-head that when the back cast ( or dloop) is directly opposite of the intended direction that casts will be better and have potential to reach further for the given the effort.

Casting is an activity not entirely effortless and casting further takes more effort. Also the further from the basics the more effort that it takes.

What about intentional use of creep, soaking anchors, and setting anchors out and way? Those seem to go hand in hand or in part when describing several different techniques...
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