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For Newbie and Struggling Skagit casters

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... the pseudo-science of running-lines and matching heads has now devolved into such a miasma of obfuscation that it is a wonder that people are even not more confused....Erik Helm

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I finally finished a blog post with a 12 point list for newbie Spey and Skagit casters to which I added one of the best Spey Casting basics videos, (Will Turek)

... the pseudo-science of running-lines and matching heads has now devolved into such a miasma of obfuscation that it is a wonder that people are even not more confused....Erik Helm

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Love your videos and your blog - very helpful Thanks
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Hey thanks for that and welcome to Speypages!

... the pseudo-science of running-lines and matching heads has now devolved into such a miasma of obfuscation that it is a wonder that people are even not more confused....Erik Helm

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Thanks for the video! I like the D-loop drill.

Been watching dozens of videos and I am trying to boil all the skagit casting instructions down to the common basics. Please correct me if I have over simplified things.

Step 1
Setup for the cast. Get control of your line. Strip in extra line to have your shooting head the correct distance from the rod tip, straighten the line if required. Stand facing the direction of your target.

Step 2
Position your anchor. Using a smooth lift-then-drop stroke (or whatever snap or poke or roll preferred) to place your anchor about a rod length away located as required to setup the D-stroke

Step 3
Do the D-loop. Twist your body and position the rod to start a low stroke. Smoothly and quickly accelerate the stroke to the required line speed then maintain that speed as you turn and raise the rod up to the delivery position which forms the D-loop 180 degrees to your target.

Step 4
Deliver the cast.

Please feel free to add any comments/corrections/suggestions to the list.

All this theory is getting to me... hope the ice is off the water soon as I want to get out and do some casting.

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Thanks, John and welcome to Speypages!

... the pseudo-science of running-lines and matching heads has now devolved into such a miasma of obfuscation that it is a wonder that people are even not more confused....Erik Helm

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Rank beginner... that's me!

Thanks for the video! I like the D-loop drill.

Been watching dozens of videos and I am trying to boil all the skagit casting instructions down to the common basics. Please correct me if I have over simplified things.

Step 1
Setup for the cast. Get control of your line. Strip in extra line to have your shooting head the correct distance from the rod tip, straighten the line if required. Stand facing the direction of your target.

Step 2
Position your anchor. Using a smooth lift-then-drop stroke (or whatever snap or poke or roll preferred) to place your anchor about a rod length away located as required to setup the D-stroke

Step 3
Do the D-loop. Twist your body and position the rod to start a low stroke. Smoothly and quickly accelerate the stroke to the required line speed then maintain that speed as you turn and raise the rod up to the delivery position which forms the D-loop 180 degrees to your target.

Step 4
Deliver the cast.

Please feel free to add any comments/corrections/suggestions to the list.

All this theory is getting to me... hope the ice is off the water soon as I want to get out and do some casting.

Hank
Hey Hank, glad you like the D loop drill. It is a great exercise I learned from the Derick Brown Spey Masterclass video and I think Mike Kinney does it some.

As far as Skagit casting I think you have the basic idea with the exception of the first part of step 3. Since you are already facing your target as you state in step 1 it's not really necessary to twist the body again in most cases. At least I don't except to single spey or poke, but that's just me. Plus, I try to do most of my sweep with my bottom hand.

I think oversimplifying is not bad at all.
Two handed casting should be kept as simple as possible.
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Thanks for the correction in Step 3 Tim.

Been watching so many videos that I am saturated, need to be "doing" not watching.

Read your 12-point list, good advise there though I think I will forgo the fly and just use some yarn - I would rather be slapped with some soggy yarn than a fully armed fly! Call me a chicken if you like :-)

I prefer to separate casting practice from fishing so I can keep my focus where it needs to be. Start close and slow and distance will happen when the muscle memory has been trained enough to know what feels right. That's the plan.

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